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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I'm helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because "Linux can't play games" despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can't even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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[-] dewritoninja@pawb.social 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What were you doing? The windows 11 install is so simple compared to even the windows 7 one. Where you messing with things to bypass the Microsoft login or something?

[-] NikkiNikkiNikki@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Windows has a hell of time with certain hardware, and with the introduction of windows 10 they tried getting you to login to a microsoft account at every turn, it became a huge hassle since half the time I had shitty internet that would drop out for hours at a time. While windows can be easier to use, I break those installations constantly and have to reinstall frequently. I've been using the same /home directory on my arch install for the past 5 years and have only had to reinstall when my new laptop had a smaller NVME drive than the raid 1-0 setup I used before it

[-] Arn_Thor@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

Windows 11 also does that. You have to jump to the command line and do some stuff mid-install to get it to install without an internet connection. Boggles the mind

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Win key + f10 to get to CMD, then oobe\bypassnro.

[-] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, its a b650 motherboard and the windows installer didn't even have the right nvme ahci drivers for it. I tried about 8 different flash drives and fat32,exfat and ntfs until I found one that the windows installer would actually install the drivers with.

[-] Grimpen@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Makes sense. The problems I've typically run into on Windows is always driver related. Since manufacturers are responsible for drivers, your are dependent on good, up to date drivers.

I'll 100% agree, that (depending on distro) Linux can be much easier to install… if there are good open source drivers for all your hardware.

I haven't tried Windows 11, because why, but even when everything has to to date and good manufacturer supplied drivers, there is a step in the Windows install where you have to visit every component manufacturer's individualn website to get the latest drivers, and then install them all one at a time.

Flip side though, I remember poor drivers for Broadcom WiFi adapters under Linux, and that was a nightmare.

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