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[-] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago

why wouldn't the natural order be unjust? Survival of the fittest doesn't give two shits about justice, that's not samething that gets selected for at all except in social species, and even then usually it's only really selected for within the species

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago

If it is unjust how do you make it just?

[-] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago

Well that's a massive question that we certainly won't see answered in our lifetime - we haven't even figured out justice between humans, and we still have a long ways to go on just that front. I have some ideas on what a more just world might look like, but some are not feasible with the current state of the world. But I think a good place to start is with the original position/veil of ignorance thought experiment

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 8 months ago

I get that as a individual the system is cruel but at a planet level it could not be more fair. The world has balance (human shortsidedness aside) so I see it as justified. This is one of things where I wonder if I lack imagination because only alternative I see is a tomb world. Which is out of the question so i ask myself do I simply accept what has been the cycle since the start of life on earth the only path or do I truly believe in the system. Like Stockholm syndrome. Since I hate late stage capitalism I must not agree with the system but that thought only applies within sentient beings not on the planet scale we are discussing. If I had viable alternatives would I side with you? Maybe i would. This will a be fun passive thought.

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