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[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago
[-] exocrinous@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Not OP, but for me it was realising I was dronegender. I could either be an atheist whose identity was valid but not "real" as I conceived it, or I could embrace a religion that said my identity was achievable. That said mind melding with a swarm was possible and I could be who I am in a physical sense and not just a personal one.

Also I met a god. She's nice.

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Sorry, I didn't really understand that. Can you please eli5?

[-] exocrinous@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

I need magic in order to feel like myself. I couldn't keep being an atheist once I started using magic.

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

How do you define magic?

[-] mukt@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

I won't use that word. From atheism, I went to igtheism.

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Oh, I would still consider that a form of atheism, colloquially if not formally.

[-] mukt@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

I know nothing colloquial in the concept of igtheism. Formally, by its very existence, igtheism proves that atheism can only be conditional - hence it is not even a proper concept.

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

I know that, formally, you can't lack a belief in a god that isn't properly defined, and I agree with you that many religions' gods aren't properly defined. But I think the colloquially definition of atheist or agnostic could still cover igtheism.

[-] mukt@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

As for theists, the gods are equally undefined for atheists/agnostics. For an igtheist, beliefs of atheists/ignostics (or lack of belief) cannot be taken any more seriously than those of theists, until definitions are provided.

Take an example. There are people who say that god is nothing but merely energy. Can someone call herself an atheist if this is definition of god?

Sans definition of god, theism/atheism do not make sense.

this post was submitted on 02 Mar 2024
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