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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by hellfire103@lemmy.ca to c/lgbtq_plus@beehaw.org

Bad news, folks. The Tories have proven yet again that they're complete and utter wankers.

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[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Unfortunately, the UK has their own anti-trans movement independent of the US. Any official 'Harry Potter' products directly fund it (thanks, Rowling).

[-] frog@beehaw.org 16 points 9 months ago

Rowling overplayed her hand recently, I think. There's a podcast I listen to every day, whose host I enjoy a lot, and most of his regular guests I like as well. One of them I'm not a fan of because she's pretty transphobic... until Rowling attacked India Willoughby. That, it seems, was a step too far, because this previously rather transphobic lady was like "hang on a second, India Willoughby is a woman though", and has settled into a new position of "there's conversations that need to be had about prisons and sports, but otherwise trans people are not a threat and we need to be more tolerant". This is someone who has, on occasions, induced such rage in me that I ended up yelling at the podcast, and her change of tack caught me completely by surprise. When Rowling has started frothing at the mouth so much that even other transphobes are rethinking their views, things feel a little less hopeless.

[-] supakaity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 9 months ago

I think it's because a lot of her fans were like "hang on, she's just misunderstood, she's not really transphobic, just doesn't want those fake transes going into women's spaces", and Rowling kept it pretty vague, open for misinterpretation, not really ever able to be pinned down as actually being provably transphobic in the minds of many.

But something happened recently and it tipped her over the edge, from keeping her donations low key and her transphobia aimed at the theoretical "not really a woman 'trans-identified-male' boogeyman-woman" (who doesn't really exist), to outright making open donations to anti-trans groups and attacking real trans women.

All the sudden her supporters are like... Wait, this is not who we thought you meant… Where are these scary men? The ones invading women's spaces that you were talking about?

[-] frog@beehaw.org 10 points 9 months ago

Yep. I do reckon there's a percentage of transphobes who are imagining hordes of men pretending to be women to get into women's spaces, but genuinely do have no problem with actual trans people (even in women's spaces. Even as a trans person, I think the belief that, for example, the small number of convicted rapists claiming a trans identity need to be far more closely scrutinised than someone with no history of acting in bad faith, is reasonable.) Now that Rowling is saying the quiet parts out loud, she becomes repulsive to that particular group.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 9 months ago

I truly hope that you're right, but many in the US had similar thoughts about Trump.

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