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You should read the article.
I think he's lying, but the defense's claim is that the group the man was in posed a credible threat, as an armed group.
Of course, his victim didn't have any weapons, so gl with that one buddy. We don't have the full picture but that's a pretty damning detail by itself.
I already read the article. Jesus what a shitty take this is...
Why would you think the victim's ethnicity (and the resulting presumption of criminality) is an appropriate defense for his killing? By that logic racists would be allowed to gun down Black people based on whatever violent stereotype they believe about them...
What? He's saying the "credible threat" argument might not hold up because the deceased didn't have any weapons.
He's also saying the "credible threat" argument might hold up because the deceased was Latino. That's the part I'm responding to here.
No, you're just bad at reading comprehension.
Reading comprehension? Do I really need to spell this out for you?
CriticalMiss@lemmy.world suggested that in America, you can kill anyone on your property, and it's legal. They aren't from here, and America is insane, so I'll forgive this misunderstanding.
I responded, explaining that castle doctrine applies to domiciles, not land. This is factually true in Arizona where this happened.
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe responds to me, accusing me of not reading the article, which suggests that my take on castle doctrine was wrong due to missing context in the article. The apparent missing context was that the man was presumed to be part of an armed criminal group, though even DragonTypeWyvern admits that the victim was unarmed, and the article confirms this and that he didn't have any contraband.
So what's left to assume that this guy was part of an armed/criminal group? Well, the assailant accused him of being part of a cartel, and referred to him as an "animal", so it seems pretty obvious that the victim's Latino race/ethnicity and the assailant's racist views were the deciding factor here.
And DragonTypeWyvern implies that my explanation of castle doctrine was flawed because I allegedly missed this detail? That somehow castle doctrine also applies if you think someone is part of a dangerous group, even if that group is a racial or ethnic group? That in that context you are free to kill unarmed people even without there being a credible threat? Fuck that.