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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/13401615

Something that should be considered when buying your micromobility device: Try to get something that will last and not end up as trash.

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

not even made to be used without the express consent of the overlords sometimes.

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

Yep. It's a terrible state of affairs from some many angles. Law makes need to wake up and see how badly the market is failing and then regulated.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

sadly at this point i think well have to rebel to see common sense stuff like this happening any time soon

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

Right to repair laws, and the open hardware, and open source movements, are our best hope.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

i know. the point i made is that they wont pass good laws, or open source anything that matters without being forced to.

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

I see right to repair as the thin edge of the wedge, and it is being driven into cracks. The is good movement for this in the US and the EU. France has a repairability index. It will take time, but in the end openness will win out because it is just better. Part of the way of forcing the issue is copyleft. So much out there is already built on open and closed the last mile. Good example of copyleft doing it's thing is in 3D printers, for example : https://github.com/SoftFever/OrcaSlicer

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

i wish!

eventually the suits will start pushing back. and most of these getting passed are (to my knowledge) actually hamful if you get to the nuts and bolts.

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

Suits aren't evil. I mean I'm they aren't good either, but all they care about is money. They push for closed because that is where the money is, but they have no resolve on anything. Law makers either try and follow experts or money.

To the extent either believe anything, they believe the IP lie and thus don't see the tragedy of the commons they advocate.

Open however has passion, and is technically correct. (The best kind of correct.)

Little by little, we'll keep winning out. Right to repair is an important front, but so is digital rights, privacy and competition.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

caring about money above all sounds pretty evil to me.

and the result in this case is the OP article... at the end they make more money from wasting materials, and wont allow this to be fixed if they have the power to do so.

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

They don't care about being bad or good. They just care about money. Change what makes money and they change. There is no resolve. Along with changes happening I listed before, one big thing we need do is bring environmental cost on to the balancesheet. At the moment it's all external costs. Move the costs of items disposal on to the up front cost. Scale it by item's life time. Incentivize better behavior.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

money for money sake leads to evil, even if money itself is not.

people after it above all else are evil.

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

The point is that they are malleable.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

only if it makes them more money.

if climate disaster is not enough to make them stop i doubt they ever will.

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

Ah, but that lost money in the future, not making money now. They don't really do long term. It's money for share holders now.

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