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[-] MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago

I agree, that just masculinity is a bad direction, but it helps narrow down possible directions. It's just a very easy group you are kinda born into. A lot of people seem to need frameworks to tailor their lives after, as seen by the tate-stans, or kardashian-stans for women.

I agree, that picking traits of several different people and freestyle some of your own is a better way to do it. But that is difficult sometimes and just being told what to do seems to appeal to a large chunk of people.

Kinda like using Linux vs Windows/Mac XD

Your point about loosing at gender like loosing in sports is great. I will definitely think more about the competition aspect sometime. It definitely is a thing with men (see dick-size jokes), idk if it is the same for women, though. There are definetly insults amongst women (slut/bitch) but I'm not sure if it has the same "less of insert gender" connotation.

To address this there probably needs to be a similar shift in gender roles for men, as there was for women. Women now are displaying a lot of traditionally male traits, while vegan men are called gay (derogatorily).

Idk how that shift will happen, but I think the first step would be for everyone to accept anger as an emotion. This would have multiple effects. First the "women are emotional" argument is moot, just look at crime rates. Secondly recognizing it as an emotion removes a lot of the stigma, thereby allowing men to deal with it instead of repressing. And lastly it might remove the "ranking" of emotions. Ranking in the sense, that when a woman cries and a man gets angry in response to something the man is expected to take care of the woman. This usually leads to more repressing.

All in all, I like the queer community, even if I'm mostly straight, just because I don't have to compete in the gender game. Just not caring gives me a lot of confidence, ironically making me more masculine in traditional settings. XD

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