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[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 8 months ago

Given that a very similar ticket already exists in Germany, they could have just told the DB staff to accept the French ticket as equivalent.

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

It's already a money issue within Germany how to distribute finances.. Some of the regional public transport companies are appareantly getting less money and more passengers. This ticket, EU-wide would have been nothing short of a '90s EU-optimism renaissance.

[-] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

But that can be fixed on the background. To the user it should be transparent. You buy one ticket to travel from Seville to Berlin and the different companies have to split the money. Otherwise is like going to the grocery store and having 20 different ticket, one for each product.

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

You get 20 different tickets if you go to 20 different supermarkets. Some regional public transport companies are like aldi or kaufland, cheap, abundant, accessible... Some are like edeka or rewe, expensive. They don't all offer the same level of service and that's one of the reasons prices differ... Another is general economic differences, wages differ too. It's just not that easy to streamline it EU-wide if a Bulgarian average paycheck is 861 € and a German one is 2741 €. Too government supported and you get 100's of empty busses driving noone to nowhere. Too much free market and there's no service at all on non-profitable routes. Organising good public transport in a good, financially durable way, isn't as easy as it seems. Tickets like the 49 € are awesome, but also risk off-balancing the public transport finances.

[-] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Who said free? You ask for a travel and you are presented with all the different times and prices. You choose one and go on. You don't care about the name of the train. That's it. Centralize the POS as if it was a supermarket and you were buying cereals.

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

I'm Gen Z, do you have another example of '90s EU optimism?

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

and maybe not everywhere, but in belgium, i recall an very large optimism about the introduction of euro... Finally, we could travel more than 1,5 hours without having to worry about exchanging currencies. People forgot fast what a mess it all was before the unified coin and the open borders, just to go on holiday to a neighbouring country 150 km away...

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Especially with the Dutch around and their insistence on 25 cents and 2 1/2 Gulden coins and 25 Gulden notes and argh. Schilling? 1:7 ratio to the Mark the maths was atrocious. Italy tended to be nice, more or less exactly 1:1000, though of course that was because I was lucky and they didn't inflate the currency between my visits.

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm sure it's not the same in everyones memories, but I for example recall when I was a kid that some parents and teachers (the knowledge-hungry ones) were borderline crazy about the realisation that an entire encyclopedia of like 40+ big fat books could now fit on one tiny interactive CD-ROM and it being possible to search through it with key words... That's even before it being constantly up to date and you fitting the entire wikipedia catalogue incl. pictures, maps offline on your pocket calculator if you wish so. The general idea was for sure that people would become so much smarter and more efficient with all knowledge in the world at their fingertips (a desktop-pc with a dial-up at best, mind you) and all that at barely any cost at all (while it cost super much to buy a pc compared to todays low end phones or laptops).

Turns out the majority of people spend the majority of their time with super-pocket-calculators playing clickbait wait-for-your-turn-and-watch-ads-or-pay-up-now games over learning new stuff, and fake news spreads a lot easier and faster than real facts. Badum-tish.

https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=CtnoK68M3Zg

So in the same spirit, and because the wall fell and all that, the idea was for sure that people would come together in peace and understanding, because you could easily learn everything about everyone anywhere in the world.

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