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I am not an atheist, I genuinely believe that God exists and he is evil, like a toddler who fries little ants with a lens.

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[-] Gluten6970@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This is definitely some shit Nietzsche would crack up high as fuck on opium. Hell im pretty sure he did

He said the opposite and very clearly mourns the decline in religion throughout his works. You should probably read the material before making wacko statements like this.

“God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?” -Friedrich Nietzsche

[-] nefonous@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

You suggested them to read Nietzsche and from it you got he mourns the decline of religion through all of his works? Maybe you should also get a re-read.

The decline of religion is stated as a fact, killed by men's rationality and evolution. As any evolution it has opportunities and risks, in this case the bigger risk is the loss of morality.

But the only thing he clearly advocates for is overcoming religion and God because they are not needed anymore. The new Man should make its own meaning and rules.

It's the whole concept of the übermensch which is the single central point of his all system.

The quote is not supposed to be his opinion (not directly at least), it's a character in a story.

It's like taking the stance of Cephalus in the Plato's Republic and say it's Plato's opinion, while it's clearly just a tool to let Socrates speak.

[-] Gluten6970@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The decline of religion is stated as a fact

And nowhere was that said that wasn't the case. Reading comprehension isn't that hard.

[-] nefonous@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Stated as a fact with no emotion or judgment related to it. So that excludes mourning for it, which was the point I was making in my reply which was more than clear enough.

And I'm sorry, but I find it incredibly ironic how you're the one saying reading comprehension isn't that hard after failing to understand both Nietzsche and my comment.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago
[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago

Nietzsche is a character. Man has done a lot of things in his life. You can basically interpret everything he said in numerous ways. I was mostly pointing out that Nietzsche was probably the most apt example given this scenario. op literally said "like a toddler who fries little ants with a lens"

Anyway, i found the philosopher in the comments, my point was made.

[-] Gluten6970@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

I read his material for a class in high school over 10 years ago. His material is hardly up to interpretation, as are most philosophical works, as he had very specific ideas about the world. That argument ends up becoming a slippery slope to "anything can be misconstrued." And if that's the case, it doesn't mean writers don't have a specific intent behind their words. The main point is that Nietzsche was a religious man and anti-nihilist which a lot of people seem to conveniently gloss over as a result of not actually reading anything he's said.

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

dude even the fucking nazis used nietzsches shit. To argue that it "CANNOT" be misconstrued is probably one of the fucking statements of all time.

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