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The reporter is the third party who confirms the evidence, either by finding corroboration with another source or who knows enough about the source to know if they could have that knowledge.
This does require reporter to be trustworthy, but that is true about anyone who provides evidence.
That is not true of anyone who provides evidence in the sense that non anonymous sources can be verified by third parties. That's precisely why anonymous sources are considered the bottom of the barrel of journalism.
How do you trust the third parties when they say they verified something that can't be replicated in a lab, like on the authenticity of an email?
Why doesn't that criteria apply to journalists?
Huh, I don't trust the authenticity of an email until I've seen some cryptographic proof (like DKIM, GPG, S/MIME)
That criteria totally does apply to journalists.
Where do you ever see that level of detail on emails you don't personally receive?
WikiLeaks, for example, publishes all such headers. If memory serves some of the Panama papers were similarly authenticated.
So you trust wikikeaks published the original headers?
Did you personally verify the headers?
Why do you trust wikileaks and the people who verified the headers, but not reporters?
I don't trust WikiLeaks, I trust the cryptography behind DKIM. I did in fact verify some of those cryptographic signatures myself. And you can too if you'd like, because the source material was published in full.