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Yuuuup, and a lot of times the people that get parodied love it. It’s like fuck me! We made it to the point where South Park makes fun of us. Only person I know of that got pissed was Kanye but fuck that guy anyways
The best thing is he apparently actually didn't get the fish sticks joke which, if true, makes Parker and Stone the best satirists of all time on merits.
what was the joke meaning, i don't watch south park
Say it out loud.
"Do you like fish sticks?"
'Yeah
"Then you're a gay fish."
Kanye in the show didn't get it and thought people were calling him a gay fish. So if real Kanye didn't get the joke, and got mad because he thought South Park was calling him a gay fish... that's just incredible.
I still don't get it
Are you by chance kanye west? In all seriousness it's because fish sticks sounds like fish dicks
Oooooooooooh... I might not be Kanye, but it seems I am of similar intelligence.
Nah I think it's overthinking the thing while it's a juvenile joke. I got it after I thought about it a lot
Sounds like someone likes putting fish sticks in their mouth...
You would probably get a kick out of the episode after this.
Isn't that still a roundabout way of calling him a gay fish?
It could technically be a round about way of calling him a heterosexual female fish.
If you're 8 years old then sure.
Why else would "fish dicks" be funny?
The recipents reaction is a jab at their lack of self awareness
I don't see how self awareness has to do with anything here
Fish sticks... Fish's dicks...
The kids came up with the joke:
“Do you like fish sticks?” (Pronounced like “fish dicks”)
Then, when the person said yes, they’d call them a gay fish.
The joke becomes a meme, but Kanye West doesn’t get it, despite having it explained to him. He thinks the joke is directed at him personally, and does actual scientific research to find out why people think he is a gay fish. At the end of the episode, he accepts his fate, and decides to live as a gay fish (complete with a catchy autotuned song.)
Nirvana famously said they knew they had made it when Weird Al did a parody of Smells Like Teen Spirit.
If I recall, Weird Al tries to get permission for all his parodies too, just further adding to the point that people mostly are good with that kind of attention.
That he does. The only snafu he had was with Coolio for Gangster’s Paradise. Apparently the label said yes but didn’t actually check with Coolio and he wasn’t happy about it. Weird Al apologized for the mixup and they made peace with it later. Weird Al said the only star that has consistently turned him down was Prince, who didn’t find the whole parody thing funny.
Many years later, Coolio said that he regrets his reaction and that he realizes it's an honor to get a Weird Al parody.
That warms my old cynical heart just a little
~~Didn't Paul McCartney refuse as well with the live and let die cover: "chicken pot pie".~~
~~Or is that just a joke I took too serious?~~
Edit 2: ~~Never mind. The cover exists. Maybe he just didn't appreciate it~~
Edit 3: it's just not officially released according to wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Pot_Pie
Yep that one is true as well. Paul is a vegetarian and didn’t want a song about non vegetarian food. He didn’t have a problem with parody in general, just that specific instance. Geez, I know way too much trivia about Weird Al :)
Edit: the song was created just never released.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Pot_Pie
Performed live, ahaha!
I'm pretty sure Prince wouldn't give him permission.
George Clooney liked the show so much he wanted to be on the show but they rejected his request initially since they don't let famous people play themselves. They in turn offered him the non-speaking role of Stan's gay dog. Clooney showed up and gave a full performance of barks.
George Clooney was instrumental in getting the show made in the first place. He liked their second Christmas short so much that he made hundreds of copies and gave them to all his friends, which helped them pitch the show.
He also got a speaking role later as the doctor in the movie.
And most of the ones who arent ok with it are aware of the "Streisand effect" and know that their best course of action is to either ignore it or pretend they are ok with it and wait for everyone to move on.
The Mormon church did this when the play Book of Mormon came out! Also amazing play if you have not seen it please do!!!! There is a reason it won a Tony!
Ah yes, the gay fish
And Kathleen "The Force Is Female" Kennedy.
And Prince Harry & Meghan
I have to doubt a lot of people love being parodied on that show. They are pretty harsh.
They are already working on weakening it.
That's a very limited scope ruling.
In terms of parody as a whole, sure, but in cases that involve trademarks it's huge. They completely killed the test that was set by the prior precedent case.
It should be noted that that really only applies to citizens being protected from the government (and primarily was created to protect the printing presses and media from the government). There is no legal precedent to indicate that it would apply between citizens.
There comes an issue when a private citizen seeks to use the engines of state to punish those whose speech offends them.
It's one thing to withdraw society and business from someone who offends you, quite another to demand that the state crush them for you. Of course, most states will do that to a greater or lesser degree. No state extends an absolute freedom of speech.
But all kinds of other laws protect citizens from other citizens. You can't hurt them, can't slander them, etcetc so there's really not much most people can do. The most of it is saying "they did a terrible parody of me" and not deal with them anymore.
That concept doesn't really apply very well here.
The government can't make laws restricting speech(with very limited exceptions) therefore other citizens can't legally go after you for protected speech. They're allowed to tell you you're an asshole, they're allowed to ignore you, but they don't have a court case.