No one designs roads. They put numbers in a spreadsheet and have useless meetings. I keep seeing huge fuckups that people with a PE are making.

Longer I work in infrastructure the more I don't much care for or respect civil "engineers". I got a system coming out now and the civil "engineer" has insisted on so many bad ideas that I am writing in the manual dire warnings that boil down to "if you use this machine there is no warranty and pray to whatever God you believe in"

It's a fixable problem but we aren't going to fix it.