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[-] Osirus@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago

I live in a small town outside pittsburgh about 45 mins. I lived in a city my entire life from 18 to 36. I bought a house here and it's quiet, but holy shit the people here are ignorant AF. When I say ignorant, I don't use that term like rude, I mean literally dumb and uneducated. NO ONE around here can even spell. Fb is hilarious with the spelling they come up with or they will use a word that sounds similar to the big word they are trying to use but not quite right. Some day, I'm going to compile a list. They hate any race that isn't white, they are misinformed, religious in thought but drinking every night, TERRIBLE parents... I yelled at my neighbor because her 3 year old son was half a mile down the road playing by himself on a 30 foot tall dirt pile and she was nowhere to be seen. When I yelled at her she said and I quote "iz he not allowed down thur or somethin?" I called the police and they came and told her she had to be outside when he was outside and she has been ever since. I'm sure she hates parenting. Trump support everywhere especially after he's now a convicted rapist. It's insane. I'm pretty outcast, i speak out when I see dumb shit, especially people selling these stickers. I call them white trash. People who know me personally respect me and I've won 1 or 2 over but man it's exhausting. Had to buy a few guns when shit was getting real scary with the rednecks wanting to overthrow the govt. I'm surrounded by rednecks with guns. I miss the city. Sure there are all types of shitty people but atleast you get culture, good food, beautiful views, activities. We drive up every so often but it's not the same. If our house wasn't so big and beautiful and old compared to what I would get in the city for 3x the cost, I would move. Fuck these hillbillies.

[-] areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Rednecks were originally left wing pro-union workers originally. So these people don't deserve to be called rednecks.

Edit: had to double check. There were multiple meanings including the coal miners I am referring to. Apparently it could also mean white sun burned farmers in the 19th century

[-] Osirus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Rednecks are farmers given that name from having their heads down while plowing their fields. They were Klan back in the day and are right wing extremists now. These people deserve much worse than being called a derogatory name.

[-] areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From the Wikipedia article on rednecks:

Coal miners

The term "redneck" in the early 20th century was occasionally used in reference to American coal miner union members who wore red bandanas for solidarity. The sense of "a union man" dates at least to the 1910s and was especially popular during the 1920s and 1930s in the coal-producing regions of West Virginia, Kentucky, and Pennsylvania.[18] It was also used by union strikers to describe poor white strikebreakers.[19]

[-] Osirus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I like how you glossed over the entire first part of the article to try to prove me wrong lmao. Clown.

[-] Wraith25@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

lol bro skipped half the article, cherry picked the shortest paragraph on the whole page

[-] areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I originally got the info from a tiktok. It appears that while that meaning is correct it's not the primary meaning of the term. I would have thought that leftist tiktokers would do at least some research before releasing a video but I guess not.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I would have thought leftist tiktokers would do at least some research

Bro cmon.

You live and you learn. I would have thought them better than right wing tiktok but I guess not.

Did you even read my earlier correction? I said the term has had multiple meanings. The coal miners were in the 20th century, the farmer rednecks were earlier in the 19th century.

[-] Osirus@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

Yeah you edited it after i posted it to save some face. Lol. Take the L.

[-] areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah I edited it because I did more research. The original source I had was from a leftist tiktoker who left out the original meaning of the term. It turns out if you search for videos like this you can find more than one talking about the redneck revolt.

That being said I find it bizarre you can't deal with the concept that a word has multiple meanings.

Edit: Also why are you trying to say stuff like "Take the L". The whole point of discussing these things is to learn or to inform, turning it into a competition is wrong and leads to bad faith behavior and antagonism for no reason.

I found a misleading source of information that I should have verified ahead of time. I find it hard to believe you wouldn't make the same mistake.

[-] Osirus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You tried to make it sound like I was incorrect. You read the whole article but chose to leave out the first section where I was right and then thought I wouldn't go look at the Wikipedia article myself. Then you edited your comment to save face after I posted the first part of the article. You were trying to be manipulative but you failed hence the "take the L". Now be gone.

No, I tried to point out that it has multiple meanings, you tried to say it has only one meaning in your attempt at a correction. This is indeed incorrect and I was right to point this out. This is presumably because you didn't know anything about the coal miners or the redneck revolt and didn't want to be caught out as ignorant.

I also haven't read the whole article, because I don't live in America and it's not that important to me right now. I have read enough to know the information I was given was incomplete, and I have updated my statement and my views based upon the information I now have.

You're accusing me of manipulation based on zero evidence. The only person being manipulative here is you.

[-] Osirus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I grew up in the town with the largest coal tipple in the world in 1920, I work for a company that produces gas detection for coal mines for the last hundred years. I know more about coal and rednecks than you can even fathom. You are the ignorant one and your failed attempt to manipulate upvotes or whatever your reasoning was for doing what you did was wack. We are done here.

This should be a copypasta. Sure I don't have the knowledge of coal mines that you do, but I wasn't trying to be manipulative. I made a comment based on information I was given, I updated this when I found this was misleading. I responded to you based on what you wrote, not jumping to conclusions like you keep doing. How am I to know you are the god of coal or whatever you claim to be? You didn't mention any of this before now and you could still be lying.

Yeah we are done here cause I am blocking you after this. You're one of the most presumptive and arrogant people I have ever met and for what? No one cares about rednecks outside of America. Even in America their are lots of different people that call themselves rednecks with many different political positions. As for coal mines I sincerely hope they all get shut down, they are an environmental and humanitarian disaster on multiple levels.

[-] Osirus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago
[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I'm starting to think there might be a reason some people assumed I was a racist redneck when I argued why I like small towns more than cities. Is that seriously what its like in some places? Here you will see the occasional truck covered in trump stickers but that's pretty much it. There's plenty of different cultures and views here. Not as much as a city of course, but that's as expected.

[-] Osirus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's OK to like small towns, but most of the people who live in small towns, never left and have no aspirations to. It's particularly evident with some of the more uh... shallow gene pool folk. They are so backwards, they know they would get ridiculed around people outside of their comfort zone, which I'm sure they would. They hate "pretty people". City people are usually pretty people and there is like a weird level of jealousy based around that. I live in what used to be a steel town and when I tell you that everyone who lives at the bottom of the hill have mental issues and all have kids that have learning disabilities, I'm not joking. Heavy metals HAVE to be the cause of so many issues in small towns. There are kids here with growth deformities, 10 miles away there is a nuclear dump that is just chilling in the middle of a residential area. Tons of people got and get cancer there, people continue to live around it and die. I have no idea why lol. It's insane. The govt put up signs but they aren't even noticeable. If you drive past, my wife had to point it out. It's fucking NUCLEAR WASTE. Seriously.... I've been in fights with a lot of my neighbors over the way they treat their children. My neighbor across the street has 2 kids and 1 black step daughter from his wife's other marriage, I feel so bad for her. One day I was outside and a group of young boys came up the street with a football, they were about 14. The dad was outside and from across the street I could hear them saying N*gger very loudly. The redneck dad just ignored it. He probably thinks the same thing and is embarrassed by her. I was shocked he just turned away and ignored it. If I ever heard that again, I'd say something l, I should have to make him look bad bit I really didn't expect him to NOT say something. I pack heat everywhere I go out here, there was a crazy redneck yelling about Biden with a gun last summer at the ice cream stand. He got arrested but if I was there with my kids and someone pulled a gun, I'd have to pop them. Never had that happen in the city. Shits real in the battlefield.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but then you have small towns like Boulder Colorado which are much more liberal than you would find even in some larger cities.

And I grew up in the country near a couple of small towns, and we used to relentlessly make fun of rednecks and the illiterate farmers who live near the towns. One of the local high schools however had a dragon as a mascot. Apparently back in the 1980s and '90s, that was not okay because we accuse them of being KKK all the time. That high school could never live that one down.

[-] zaphod@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

small towns like Boulder Colorado

Boulder has a population of around 100k, I wouldn't call it small or a town.

[-] BigNote@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Boulder is not a small town. But even if it were, it's a college town which, surprise surprise, always changes the small town dynamic.

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