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In our society, when a person or thing cannot consent, another person or a thing can be assigned to consent on their behalf. This is how children get vaccines. This is how some people with mental illnesses have their finances managed. This is how Grandma gets looked after in the nursing home.
If you are okay with all of the above, then your problem is not with our model of delegated consent. Your problem is with the actions the delegate is choosing to take.
Now, if you would make it illegal for a delegate to consent to hair dying, then for consistency you would also need to be okay with parents not dying the hair of their children. Children cannot consent. Is that a statement you're willing to make?
Hair-dyeing is an aesthetic choice for entertainment. Children can consent to dyeing their hair because they can understand and accept the skin irritation. When we say children cannot consent, we are talking about activities with consequences they cannot grasp.
If you are equating dyeing the hair of animals with giving children vaccines necessary for their health, you're a laughably obtuse self-centered buffoon, at best.
I just reread your post and realized you insulted me.
It boggles my mind that people who would be absolutely polite in regular society go on the internet and assume that, just because they can't see someone's face, there aren't real people on the other end of the conversation. I'm a real person. What you said was needlessly mean.
You are advocating for the violation of helpless animals, so the insult was appropriate. Are you unable to understand that hurting animals is bad?
And insulting someone because you jump to conclusions about their point without understanding it is not actually appropriate. Is that another consistency problem you have? Do you think it's ok to insult people online but not in person? Would you not ask for clarification in real life, and just come out and insult people? That seems like a pretty intense way to live life.
I was actually advocating for consistency of thought. Either we need to stop violating children. Or maybe it's not a violation. It's one of those.
I personally have no skin in the game. I don't do anything to my kids that I wouldn't do to an animal, and vice versa. So I'm consistent.
Children can't consent. They can have opinions. They can't consent. They don't have the cognitive capacity to properly weigh options nor the context.