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UN votes to back Palestinian membership, prompting Israeli envoy to shred charter (www.theguardian.com)

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The UN general assembly has voted overwhelmingly to back the Palestinian bid for full UN membership, in a move that signalled Israel’s growing isolation on the world stage amid global alarm over the war in Gaza and the extent of the humanitarian crisis in the strip. The move drew an immediate rebuke from Israel. Its envoy to the UN, Gilad Erdan, delivered a fiery denunciation of the resolution and its backers before the vote, and fed pages of the UN charter into a shredder. The Palestinian envoy, Riyad Mansour, highlighted that the vote was being held at a time when Rafah, Gaza’s southernmost city that is the last haven for many people, faced attack from Israeli forces

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[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 22 points 7 months ago

I really want to see this as the UN finally mending its ways, but seeing how they got Saudi Arabia for women’s rights chair and got caught denying doing anything for refugees in Thailand because “it would anger China”… I can’t help but see it as them playing to someone’s interest in creating chaos.

I don’t know who that would, what I know is trusting the UN’s motives isn’t a good bet lately.

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

but seeing how they got Saudi Arabia for women’s rights chair

I remember seeing a hot take that the political reason for this was because it removed SA’s “you’re just making up rules without our input” excuse when they got called out. Basically, by giving them the chair, it put a spotlight on their abuses and simultaneously removed any political excuses they had.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 7 months ago

Meh. I’m fine with making rules without their input on any subject matter, and specially this one.

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Do you know how Saudi Arabia was elected to that seat?

[-] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

story time!

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Saudi Arabia has a higher legal marriage age (18) ~~than many Western states~~. And that’s one thing of many that it does right for women.

Edit: it looks like most European states also have it at 18. It is only the some states in the USA that are doing it wrong.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 7 months ago

It’s truly a beacon of equality and human rights upholding.

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

honestly, as good as this may be in the short term, they've really just added one more highly Conservative religious state that will vote against the interest of the common good moving forward.

I strongly support Palestine gaining statehood and for Israel to stop fucking with them (that extends far beyond the war), but that doesn't mean i like their ideals. i think there's a strong chance that this will cause problems moving forward and that conservatives will use that as ammunition.

that said, this is the un finally really kinda doing its job for once. ending global conflict through diplomacy. can't say that's a bad thing.

[-] Woozythebear@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

Just so you are aware, America is one of the most conservative members of the UN and constantly stop the UN from preventing or stopping genocides and other atrocities around the world.

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

oh I'm aware, that's why i said another.

[-] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

The UN is more a place to talk with your enemies than with your friends, and getting the chance to sit at a table with people you disagree with rather than fighting each other is great.

If there are any Palestinians left to disagree with.

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

sure, but the issue of the un never getting things done or doing the wrong thing is due to the influence and stalling done by states that oppose the common good for religious reasons or personal gain. in the long run that's what Palestine is likely to be.

so again, i don't disagree with this move. it's necessary, but i also Foresee more problems in the future. nothing really for it, just a prediction.