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Dutch court convicts engineer to 5 years for maintaining crypto mixer Tornado Cash
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this post was submitted on 16 May 2024
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Due to its mode of operation, the court considered the software to be “specifically intended for criminals”
Crime is an action a state doesn't like, not necessarily wrong or evil, but serves interests other than the state. If the state has to authorize everything, then the state is favoring dominance over governance.
When the state has to monitor all transactions it is tyranny.
The state is just the abstraction of the collective will of the governed, if the Dutch people have determined this is a crime against their society, then it is.
The state holds a monopoly on violence, another monopoly isn’t a stretch.
That's really only in theory. I don't think there's any country where the government does what the polis wants in every instance.
For an entity hat already has monopoly over violence, how difficult is it to claim monopoly over the collective will?
Collective will is just the myth that is used to legitimize the state
The state is also so much more than the will of the governed. To say that it is all there is to it would consider governments like those governed by the divine right of kings fo be stateless. Stalin’s Russia, or Kim Jong Un’s DPRK would then be stateless.
Nah
This is only true in a people's democracy. The Netherlands is capitalist. The government is the collective will of the capitalist class.
What a fantasy world you live in. Must be nice. In truth, the state is a gang of thugs and parasites. Has nothing to do with the collective will of the people, a concept which doesn't exist in reality.