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The economy is thriving under Biden. So why don’t Americans believe it?
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Agreed.
It is, in fact, time to stop being the bigger person and start being the more effective person. I don't care if we set an example, let's get some shit done.
Doing enough should be dragging price gouging executives through the street. But I guess wagging a finger at them will definitely make my grocery bill go down🤷🏼♂️
They could address stagnant wages in the midst of record inflation. What's minimum wage again?
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Man, the way they calculated this statistic is so misleading, and counter intuitive to the claim it's ridiculous.
The only reason for "real wage growth" is shown as outpacing inflation is because they aren't counting people who lost their job because of COVID as a loss of income, but as someone exiting the job market.
Basically "wages" increased because the majority of people who lost their jobs were low income earners, leaving more white collar jobs to represent wage earnings.
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It's in the article you linked as a source..... Did you not read it?
The problem with economic studies is that they are usually made by people trying to argue one point or another, it's not the same as scientific study where proving or disproving your hypothesis is an academic benefit either way.
It makes it easy to quantify, something unlike "wages out pacing inflation", you just have to redifine some terms, and then something like thousand of lay offs becomes a net positive instead of a bleak reality.
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I think that's a fairly subjective interpretation. Is a bill being written and endorsed by part of the party an indication of "real effort"?
I think the problem a lot of people hold, myself included, is that the democratic party lacks the leadership that turns "real effort" into law.
When republican leadership lays out their political agenda their whips make sure that their members in the Senate and the House (to a lesser extent post Jan 6) toe the line. If you don't make the party's position a priority then you lose your committee memberships, or are passed over for funding.
I think the problem is that the DNC leadership's only qualifier is seniority, so the "progressive" party is being helmed by ancient millionaires who were only really progressive by comparison during the regan era.
I can see your point, but this also ignores the fact that a lot of powerful Democrats are basically center right on the political compass and have been effectively captured by corporate interests, and have been for decades.
You could argue that their commitment to third way politics has caused the current political situation where conservatives feel confident enough to be this intransigent in the first place. I personally feel that democratic leadership would rather have someone like Trump in the Whitehouse than someone like Bernie Sanders.
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Right, but the argument is about the democratic party as a whole not the few individuals with no power within the party that are doing a good job.
I don't think it's that complicated. With the two party system the main hurdle is just securing the support of the DNC. Once you're established the choice is the incumbent or a conservative. So I think most elected officials may have represented their constituents level of progressive ideas at the time they were first elected. So in a party where we claim to be progressives, the elected officials are conserving the status quo of when they were first elected 30 years ago.
I get that, but I tend to believe American politics has the propensity to have the cart lead the horse. If the cart spent over a decade screaming at the horse that Democrats are the reasonable party, and reasonable people have to make concessions to conservative to make that progress, no matter how unreasonable those conservatives are.....then of course a large portion of the constituents will still hold those beliefs in the long run.
Third way politics was not invented by the democratic constituents, stop the steal was not invented by conservative constituents. The unfortunate reality of America is that most of the people voting are being influenced by the leadership of political parties instead of the political parties being influenced by the constituency.
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Okay, so you are conceding the point about the democratic party making a "real"effort about wages then?
Entrenched encumbrancey is a fairly simple well known issue in American voting.... I think your just just avoiding the argument.
Lol, as opposed to what? Do you sincerely think that what you believe to be the problem is anything other than a belief? I'm just being honest and not trying to make it seem that my views represent the only realistic depiction of American politics.
You think the American people collectively came up with the concept of third way politics? It's been a theory in politics since the 50's, was popularized in the 80-90s in Australia and in America by Bill Clinton.
I'm not coming up with political theory.....of course my beliefs are influenced by others people's ideas, so are yours. The idea of political discourse is engaging in those ideas with others to better understand them.
Probably should have known better when you didn't even bother to read your own sources. Go kick rocks.
Bidens only response is asking them to stop price gouging then doing nothing when they don't stop screwing Americans
why do people think nothing has been done?
Right. Fuck, better go back to trump because Biden didn't solve it.
Get the Mexicages back out, remove presidential term limits, let's do a day (TM) of fascism and put anyone who trump owes money back in charge!
I'm not saying this is your perspective but this is the kind of stupid in reading here that starts from the same perspective.