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Are there any EV cars without any "technology"? (lemm.ee)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by penquin@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Like the title says, are there any EVs that just have a Bluetooth radio and that's it? Like a normal car, not a smartphone on wheels? If not, do you all think that this will actually happen at some point? This is the main reason why I can't (and will never) buy an EV. I like to have actual buttons everywhere on my car. I think those massive tablets on these cars with all the touch buttons are very dangerous. I like an "entertainment system" that only connects to my phone with either a headphone jack ~~of~~ or Bluetooth. It's a car, not a PC.

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[-] dan@upvote.au 24 points 7 months ago

all seem to be "smart", and cloud connected, and effectively hardware as a service to spy on you, and prevent repairs, and have software lockouts of

This is happening with gas cars too. I was driving an Infiniti rental car and every time I started it, the infotainment system showed a disclaimer about Infiniti collecting and using data. There was a way of opting out of just some of the data collection, but no way of opting out of all of it.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

How does it connect to the Internet if you never connect your phone to it? Do they have their own network?

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 11 points 7 months ago

Yes, most cars have had their own data connection for a while now. If I know correctly, it's a requirement for Europe since you have to put that button to call emergency services in the car, so it has to have a GSM module, so effectively it has to have mobile data.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

So, forced data collection. Wow

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

Well technically GDPR applies, but who knows if any cars are actually compliant.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

I know of a story where a judge actually said that car makers are within their rights to collect your data as long as there is no harm done. Loius Rossmann made a video about it

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

On one side, what the fuck, that's not how it's supposed to work. On the other side, at least precedent doesn't mean much in the EU.

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 1 points 7 months ago

FWIW the EU's eCall system doesn't actually require a GSM module in the car; it's enough to use a phone connected to the Bluetooth handsfree kit.. That said, since most manufacturers already have the module for data-harvesting anyway it's kind of moot.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

On star is one of those networks. There should be info in the owners manual on which fuse it goes to so you can pull it and disable it.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

That's actually good to know. Thank you

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