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[-] manucode@infosec.pub 13 points 7 months ago

Japanese fleama though appears to be a loan word and not a calque like the rest.

[-] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago

Now this guy is paying attention!

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

This is true, I don't know which word came first. I'd wager a guess that 蚤の市 predates フリーマーケット, but it's really just a stab in the dark on the basis that English loanwords feel more modern, and it feels unlikely that a calque would be created after a loanword has been widely adopted.

[-] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Wouldn't it be both? Assuming 蚤の市 and フリーマーケット have the same meaning.

[-] manucode@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago

I assume that 蚤の市 is a loan word and フリーマーケット a calque. But I don't speak any Japanese.

[-] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No, it's the other way around. 蚤 means flea and 市 means market. フリーマーケット sounds like flea market.

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

蚤の市

Yep! nomi no ichi. Nomi (蚤) means flea, and ichi (市) means market, no (の) is a possessive particle making it "flea's market" or "market of flea"

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