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[-] Nziom@lemmy.world 181 points 7 months ago

Why out of all sites why internet archive

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 113 points 7 months ago

Someone wanted to erase history.

[-] Nziom@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago

Luckily non of the data was deleted

[-] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 25 points 7 months ago

It might be that someone wanted to change something that was on a website before the archive could get to it too.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 7 months ago

That’s a ridiculous amount of effort to go through to slow down a scraper for one site, especially when that site could just be… turned off.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 13 points 7 months ago

If you own the domain you can disable the crawler on it. And remove previous scrapes.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Then it still makes no sense, as you being unable to take down the content means you also very likely can’t edit the content. I can’t think of a situation where you:

  1. Need content to not be scraped
  2. Need time to remove/edit that content
  3. Have access to do the above
  4. Don’t have access to pull the content immediately
  5. Have control of a large enough botnet to take down Internet Archive
  6. Don’t have a big enough botnet to take down the aforementioned content
[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 7 points 7 months ago

Well that's my point... It doesn't make sense because you can just go after the fact and make the request to take it all down.

You have to be stupidly paranoid and obscenely stupid to believe that a DDOS is the correct answer if this is the case.

[-] r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 1 points 7 months ago

On an individual level, having a massive archive of everything you've ever posted isn't always a good thing, especially when mentally ill people will quote mine a single post and then try to misuse it.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well they made a bad job of it because you can't do that with a DDOS attack. Basically it's the same as picketing the entrance to a building. All you need is a lot of people anyone can do it at any time.

Actually entering the building and manipulating contents it holds is much more difficult, as then you actually have to engage with the building security.

A DDOS attack can never delete data.

[-] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago

A DDOS alone cannot delete data, but like your picketing analogy, if you can get in first, the picketing will keep out anyone looking to stop your interference.

[-] xavier666@lemm.ee 80 points 7 months ago

Modification of history is one of the most common tools of dictators

[-] Nziom@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago

But they have back up to the entire thing am pretty sure any change would be detectable if a dictator is behind this then he's extremely stupid

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

If the internet archive goes offline we can just view a cached version of it at the internet archi OH NO!

[-] Nziom@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I thought there back online was there any update on the issue?

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 27 points 7 months ago

They're storing proof of my fuck up which I fixed but if anyone looks it up I'm cooked

[-] TheHottub@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago
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