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Please help us, how do we make it stop?
I don't know, but I am scared for the future. It's also worrying how popular far right is under the youth. I worry about my little kids growing up ...
It's looking bleak here, indeed. My Heimat is jerking off Wilders and here in Germany it's the AfD, though luckily in BW they aren't as popular as in other parts of Germany..
Still, not really sure what to do about it. I vote, but it doesn't seem to matter. Don't know how to explain to people why they should care about others. It's a good thing I have enough books and games and series to offer escapism, because otherwise I'd probably need to get some prescription medication.
Your vote does matter.
Well, they win because they get votes, what is it that they're unhappy with that they're drawn to the potential leadership of these parties? I'd start with that. These are democracies, so these parties can't gain power unless they offer the citizenry of their countries something they want.
That assumes a fair and level playing field and it really isn't
How so? The parties they're competing against are incumbents, and often, there are laws preventing them from campaigning. If anything they're at a disadvantage policitally, and yet they're winning. Obviously, what they're offering is popular for some reason.
In my opinion these parties are often mentioning valid issues or things that could be improved in society, and people vote for that. The problem is these parties don't really have solutions either, but that's something that doesn't show up until after the elections...
I think people have been waiting for solutions and they are reacting to those not being offered now, not in a potential future
Here is the actual answer:
Make housing affordable.
Ban housing as an investment and build far more social housing.
As long as countries succumb to the investors and make housing an investment this will only get worse.
The most important thing is to make sure the peoples basic needs are provided. If they do not have food, electricity, housing etc, they will get big mad at whomever is in charge right now.
Unfortunately that won't solve the problem, I see some people that have already everything, but they are just afraid of others, don't want to change their habits and don't want to share.
I guess the only way to change this mind is to talk, exchange, mix, share
Most right winger groups grow big by blaming on immigrants.
In the case of the rising immigration hate, it's the people blaming the housing prices on immigrants instead of cheap loans for investment bankers to snatch up all the properties with.
If the 20th century is to be believed, with unprecedented amounts of violence.
Can you undo too much immigration?
Maybe sending people like you back to level it out could work?
And then you guys ask yourselves why would anyone not vote in your favor.
Nice
Simple really - stop importing people from countries incompatible with western culture, like most muslim countries.
Most of the discourse is around anti Islamic immigration so the people might be somewhat discontent with that...
Holy fucking racism Batman
You asked a question and he replied by giving the only reason why people vote for the far right.
Also religion is not race.
Race and religion are absolutely just smoke and mirror scapegoats and panic-triggering red buttons, for the far-right.
People vote far right because of strongman propaganda (Great Leader will solve it all!!!!), combined with feelings of anger, frustration and powerlessness.
Any country that keeps it's people poor and/or let's rich fucks get rich enough, will get a blooming field of far-right politicians, vying for the privilege of getting more power, to suck the rich people's dicks better, and get richer themselves.
It's still discriminatory, though.
If the religion itself is discriminatory towards the tolerant, why should we be tolerant of them?
Nice. Generalizing an entire group of people to fit your narrative. Can you say the same about Christians? You sure can, but again, you'd sound stupid because you're generalizing.
I don't think you can... In majorly Christian and atheist nations in Europe, there isn't much prejudice against women and people from the LGBT group, unlike in the middle East.
I'm no fan of any religion but some have clearly stopped in the middle ages.
Hahahahahaha
Go to any place Christian nutters have ‘missionaried’ in over in Africa and you can see them with the masks off.
The only reason that sort of shit doesn’t openly happen in most of Europe anymore is it isn’t a popular idea with secular people, and religious leaders don’t have enough power to force it down people’s throats - yet.
Islamophobia is racism. The logic is subtle and inescapable. Read about it.
I am a person from an Arab and Muslim country. This logic is insane and downright dangerous. You don't know what you are getting yourself into. Read about it.
I'm not "getting myself into" anything. I understand how logic works and what words mean. I read some words about how islamophobia is racism and they were logical. They were at least a hundred times more convincing than your comment. You are saying that the idea that islamophobia is racism is dangerous. That is an extremely bold claim. Would you like to explain that a little?
Just give in to the hate and give the fear mongers exactly what they want to make them stop must be the dumbest thing ever posted on Lemmy. Congrats!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism#France (since the 80s nonetheless)
That is semantics. It doesn't change anything about the point they were making since both race and religion are protected from discrimination.
Truth does not equate to racism.
Sure, provided that the EU, pays reparations to the countries that it gouges the last 50 years, and provided that former colonial European countries, pay reparations to their former colonies.
What, no?
You can't colonize Algeria and then complain about Algerians in France. You can't import gastarbeiter and then complain about Turks in Germany. You can't genocide the Kongo, Namibia, etc and then complain about Africans. You can't keep West Africa in a perpetual chokehold with the franc and complain about the Senegalese.
Basically, you simply can not fundamentally alter the rest of the world to serve your interests and then pretend that you don't have to change yourself.
The funny thing is that the European project as a supra national project is actually perfectly placed to overcome these old wounds by promoting peace and prosperity and encouraging regional integration outside Europe. The basic tenets of Europeanism are wildly successful at promoting peace and prosperity internally. The European experiment seems to have worked and Europe could very well foster similar projects around the world. Instead, they play the role of Vikings...
Congratulations, you just succinctly demonstrated why Far-Right parties are rising. Turns out that many voters do not want to do either of those things.
Yup. So what is your take?
white ppl have some nerve whining about "importing people from countries incompatible with culture" considering their history of colonisation
There is no correlation between your area receiving immigration and people turning far right. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, and sometimes they turn far right in some backwater town where no one wanted to move into anyway. Muslims are just a scapegoat that people too lazy to think about the root of their own problems are fast to attack.
Removed, racism.
People really don't like hearing the truth here.