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[-] maporita@unilem.org 40 points 1 year ago

I have the opposite view. A country at war should have the draft, and there should be no exceptions, so that the politicians who send other people's children off to fight also have to send their own.

Most soldiers in a "professional" army are there because their families are poor and they have few other options to make a living.

[-] Echinoderm@aussie.zone 14 points 1 year ago

There will always be exceptions, for example for disabilities or medical conditions. Most of those exceptions will be more accessible to wealthy or influential families that can afford to pay off doctors than poorer families.

[-] Boinketh@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

so that the politicians who send other people's children off to fight also have to send their own.

Right, because politicians always follow the same rules we do and totally wouldn't just find a way to dodge the draft.

Most soldiers in a "professional" army are there because their families are poor and they have few other options to make a living.

You're right. Many feel forced into it by unlivable economic conditions. That doesn't mean we should answer wage slavery with more slavery.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Politicians didn't send their own children when there was a draft in the US. Trump AND Biden are evidence of this

[-] maporita@unilem.org 2 points 1 year ago

Trump and Biden both avoided the draft with "1-Y" (medical) exemption. Keep in mind that more than half the 27 million eligible males were exempted or disqualified for some reason, so it's not as if this was something only politicians did.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I would wager there was a higher percentage of the wealthy that somehow got an exemption

[-] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Make declaration of war a mandatory vote for every citizen. Anyone who votes “yes” (or illegally abstains) gets registered for the draft. Anyone who votes “no” is unregistered.

I know it’s not really feasible because governments need to be able to react swiftly in times of war. But these days with computers and cell phones, there’s very little reason that the government couldn’t push a “go download our secure voting app/visit this link to cast your vote” notification via the emergency alert broadcasting system.

[-] Endorkend@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Ukraine didn't decide to go to war.

They were invaded.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

After the US set the stage and created the environment to start a war.

[-] lukzak@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How do you reckon it would work when it comes to age? Is the vote limited just to people of military age? Does this mean that whether or not to declare war effectively falls in the hands of ~18 - 30 year olds?

Or is it open to everyone and even some old warhawk could be drafted? Are handicapped people not allowed to vote? Women that don't meet combat standards?

There is always the option to draft them into some sort of non-combat role. But if you knew you were only going for a non-combat role, it could be a lot easier to vote "yes".

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