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Really interested in the positions of those downvoting. Willing to be corrected on this one a little because obviously this post is painting with a very broad brush :)
Nothing has foundationally changed with the DNC position over this time period. There was no "Chad" period where they actually fought back and have always rolled over for immigration fearmongering.
It's also just not a good meme, which is why I personally downvoted.
paragraph 1 — interesting, thanks for the insight, this is new to me possibly because it doesn’t align with many of my lived experiences
paragraph 2 — aw :( thanks for your honesty i guess
Sorry :( but if you can interchange the right side panels and nothing changes with the messaging it kind of doesn't land well.
noted i guess i need to figure out how to express this better. because there’s definitely some kind of capitulation to conservatives going on, and i agree with you that it’s not foundational but more aesthetic—yet obviously meaningful enough that it is affecting certain instances of policy
I think a lot of the capitulation you're seeing is just the cascading aftereffects of the ramping up of migrant shipping policies from the southern border states(or just Texas I guess). The scale of that kind of forced some form of reaction outside the norm.
i don’t disagree. but it’s insane that it’s happening because it’s such a losing move.
i saw someone put it like this: imagine if in 2016 Bernie was still in the running and for some reason Trump began capitulating against his voter base and decided that medicare for all was a good idea.
for the swing voters that care about healthcare, is that sudden and strange reversal going to encourage them to vote for the brand new candidate with that platform? the answer is obviously like, no way, they are going to stick with Bernie who has always had that position.
in the same way, Biden now more than ever doing moves that are pretty unpopular with progressive constituents isn’t going to make him look good in the eyes of would-be Trump voters. they are just going to see a guy who happens to now agree on one point, and feel a bit vindicated on their merry way to vote for the fascist that always had that position.