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Community for moderation accountability?
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this post was submitted on 03 Jul 2024
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Not really sure what this will achieve in the long run. Sure, some mods will up their game after being shamed... but would this not just encourage toxic behaviour? People may start shaming mods just because they may slightly disagree with them as opposed to because they are bad mods. Instead of a few bad eggs, we may end up with a chaotic community of people blasting and publicly shaming anyone with differing opinions. Is this the best way to go about this? Obviously I may be exaggerating slightly, but this is just to get across a point to consider. I know you have touched on this issue already, but another thing to consider is the potential bias of mods of this community as well. This is an interesting idea and I would also like to hear other people's opinions on the matter.
There is also the deep asymmetry of effort. Nearly all moderators are volunteers that put in largely invisible effort every day, for no return. As all humans they sometimes make mistakes and can also have a bad day.
On the other hand there are people that put almost no effort in, but are deeply offended by any moderation action against them and will rise a huge stink about it.
These two factors together make people very reluctant to volunteer for moderation duties in popular communities, which is a major issue for the health of the Lemmyverse as a whole.
Yes, I agree. Not only would the proposed community be full of baseless claims etc. But also it may deter potential mods.
ACAB includes mods. These jobs attract the kind of reddit/lemmy users who want to have power over a petty fiefdom and abuse it. Good mods only get shamed for ridiculous reasons like "Wouldn't let me be transphobic" and "enforced the rules". Bad mods get shame they deserve. Mods get paid in power over others, and as an anarchist, I personally seek to ensure that power is constantly questioned, and abolished if it's abused.
I say all this as the owner of a sublemmy, and I expect to be held to the same standard.
As an Anarchist myself: this is the most absurd take on ACAB and moderation I have heard in a while.
And apparently you have been lucky to not have had to deal with bad-faith concern trolling that some narcissist like to do online.
What kind of anarchist uses ableist slurs? People with NPD are not your enemy, they are not the source of conservativism. They're just kids who were abused and are trying to live life as adults without having a mental breakdown over not being good enough. Statistically they are poor, have few friends, and have terrible health problems. Because NPD is a social disability. It interferes with holding a steady job, holding a steady friend group, holding a steady lack of desire to kill oneself. People with NPD are exactly the kind of person you want within a leftist group. They've been failed by the system and they understand the system's flaws. They understand the mechanisms of abuse and have a stunning gift for identifying and calling out right wing bullshit. And they fight like hell against what they perceive as injustice.
You should be trying to get people with NPD to join our movement, not using slurs that degrade them and accusing reactionaries of mental disability.
... for abusing others, yes. Thanks, but no thanks.
Oh, you're one of those people who thinks a mental disorder makes someone abusive. You know, a conservative.
Is this elaborate satire? :)
No, this is anarchism
This is anarchism? Come on now...
These are valid concerns that could certainly prove problematic without further insight. :) Thanks for sharing.
No problem :) . Thank YOU for posting. This can cause an interesting discussion.