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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17199847
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The DNC is the only reason you're not currently enjoying a second-term Sanders and a sane Supreme Court.
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"I don't like Hilary so I'll protest no vote! Let's see what that gets us." Yeah, take a look at what it got you.
If you're going to what if, if the DNC leadership wasn't caught off guard by Obama's popularity in 2008. They would of railroaded him like they did Sanders.
Then we would have had 8 years of McCain because Hillary was and is un-electable.
The only way in hell I'd ever vote for Hillary, was if the other guy was Literally Hitler.
Trump was close enough to that description, so I voted for Hillary.
But yeah, even back then she was still trying the "Bernie Bro." line.... course back then they were "Obama Boys"
You're whatifing hard about primaries. I'm informing what happens when the left voters don't show up.
Every single time the left voters don't show up, the Overton window goes to the right when the GOP wins, and again when the Dems go to the center to find voters (because the left never shows up). And then people ask why the Dems keep going to the center.
You can't have it both ways. You're arguing the Democrats simultaneously don't care about leftist voters because they don't show up and vote and aren't a significant enough chunk of the electorate to be worth catering to, yet claiming that this same group not showing up resulted in Hillary's loss against Trump. Which is it? Are we the deciding factor in US electoral politics, or a bunch of rabble-rousers not worth concerning yourself with?
The reality is that Clinton lost the election due to extremely narrow margins in a handful of flyover states not known for being bastions of leftism. Leftists of Lemmy in LA or NYC could have all gone for voter fraud and voted for her multiple times, and she still would not have received any more votes in the electoral college from California or New York, because she already got them all! Conversely, she wouldn't have gotten any fewer votes in Michigan, Pennsylvania or Wisconsin, which were the decisive states at the level of the Electoral College because of leftists in other states.
tl;dr: Get lost with your ahistorical, left punching bullshit.
They exist, but they don't show up (or very rarely if you want to be specific). And because they don't show up, they aren't courted. This is really simple.
So the Dems go to the center to find voters. Because the left doesn't show up. No one is going to court the left that doesn't show up.