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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by makeasnek@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

On P2P payments from their FAQ: "While the payment appears to be directly between wallets, technically the operation is intermediated by the payment service provider which will typically be legally required to identify the recipient of the funds before allowing the transaction to complete."

How about, no? How about me paying €50 to my friend for fixing my bike doesn’t need to be intermediated, KYCed, and blocked if they don't approve of it or know who the recipient is? How about it’s none of the government’s business how I split the bill at dinner with friends? This level of surveillance is madness, especially coming from an app that touts "privacy" as a feature.

GNU Taler is a trojan horse to enable CBDC adoption. They are the friendly face to an absolutely terrifying level of government control in our lives funded by the same government that tries every year to implement chat control. Imagine your least favourite political party gaining power. Now imagine they can see and control every transaction you make. No thanks.

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[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 30 points 5 months ago

CBDCs are coming whether you like it or not and a GNU Taler based payment system is currently our best mitigation strategy against them.

It's pointless to compare GNU Taler to crypto-currencies as it is a payment system and not a pseudo-currency.

[-] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

CBDCs are coming whether you like it or not and a GNU Taler based payment system is currently our best mitigation strategy against them.

The best mitigation strategy is to refuse to use them and to point out when systems, like Taler, are actively working to further their introduction of use. Using your national currency is mandatory to pay taxes, it's not mandatory for anything else in most countries. We have the option to opt out, just like we do with every other privacy-attacking technology. Assuming it's inevitable is how they win.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago

I didn't say the use will be inevitable, and great if you try to opt out. But the majority are already using cashless payment systems, and will happily switch to a CBDC if it becomes available and promises lower fees than credit cards etc.

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