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[-] thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 37 points 5 months ago

I think in general the u.s. journalists are not really critical. So much extreme things are being said and done and no one seems to be questioning how and why.

Where are all the real journalists at?

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

They're certainly critical of one of the two geriatrics, but for some reason the lying one gets a pass... 🤔

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

"Trump spouts insane lies" is a dog bites man story.

Far Right echo chamber right about the severely deteriorated mental state of Biden" is a man bites dog story.

It's not because people aren't critical of Trump. It's a matter of expectations.

Also, the media DOES cover the bizarre lies of Trump every day. We just don't notice it as much because it's so common that it's become part of how the world has worked for the last 9 years.

Unlike the leader of the free world being visibly confused and frequently incapable of coherent communication.

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago

Sorry, old man has senior's moment is a man bites dog story? I don't buy it.

It almost feels like the MSM are actively trying to feed trump the win, or push Biden out at the very least. After the debate they absolutely could have dedicated as much time to deconstructing Trump lies as they did to "Biden old".

[-] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

Calling out Trumps lies over 45mins, a little over 1 lie per minute speaking, is hard and takes work. Calling out Biden for being old is easy, barely an inconvenience

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Sorry, old man has senior's moment is a man bites dog story?

Not generally, but it's only ever happened to one president before and they hid Reagan away and put Nancy in charge once he got too bad.

In this case it's public and obvious, which it never was with Ronnie.

It almost feels like the MSM are actively trying to feed trump the win, or push Biden out at the very least.

Oh THAT'S your angle? You're about the minimizing of the most powerful human in the world being cognitively diminished no matter which one wins?

It's not like the commander in chief would ever need to be able to communicate or anything 🙄

After the debate they absolutely could have dedicated as much time to deconstructing Trump lies

Nah, his gish gallop of ridiculous lies is old hat. It's expected. It's boring.

as they did to "Biden old".

It's not that he's old. It's that his brain isn't functioning properly anymore. Last I checked, being able to think and communicate clearly while projecting an image of competence were THE most important parts of the job.

Unlike for example Bernie, who's slightly older, but showing absolutely no signs of cognitive decline, Biden is no longer qualified for the job he's reapplying for. That Trump is obviously even worse is irrelevant to that.

As Jon Oliver said: the standard to beat CANNOT be as low as Trump. Trump is the definition of NO standards.

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Did you watch the entire debate, or just the highlights? I don't think acknowledging he was completely cogent for 99.9% of it is minimizing anything, but that's not part of the narrative the media are pushing.

I don't particularly like Biden, but my main concern at this point is keeping Trump out by any means necessary. Sacking the incumbent four months prior to the election is a dangerous gamble, especially so if he isn't willing to step down himself.

In any case, it looks like it's going to have to happen now regardless, but I sincerely believe it's more because of the media's irresponsible coverage than any actual substantive issue.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 5 months ago

Where are all the real journalists at?

They along with the actual research departments were dumped about 15 years ago during the "great buyout" of all major media outlets. Corporations/billionaires like Bezos bought up institutions like the Washington Post and pretty much immediately went into business school jackass mode of squeeze squeeze squeeze for more profit so the first things to go were investigative journalism and research departments in favor of literally copying whatever story the NYT ran (not kidding.)

Their motto is "no blood from a stone? You aren't squeezing hard enough!"

this post was submitted on 11 Jul 2024
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