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The Whole Murder Thing, I'm Guessing
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God damn, I hate him reguardless. But sometimes you forget how absurd it is. He started and endorsed a riot that stormed the capital with gallows, pressured the vice president not to certify an election that was obviously legit. Then supposedly Pence was afraid to get into a ss car because he knew his safety was in question.
That's fucking insane. It's fucking insane how obvious it is that he is trying to undermine America and its institutions, its government, its "democracy ". He's not even trying to hide it. It's his rallying cry. In the country that his party pretends to love.
And whats even more insane is here we are, in a situation where we are worried about half the country voluntarily wanting it to happen.
I am as apathetic as they come about our broken system. I want the whole thing to burn down and rebuild, but not by handing the keys over to a tyrant. There is no rebuilding after that. Not in my lifetime.
Your lede is sort of buried and is far more telling and scary.
So if we expand on this - Pence was afraid for his life. He was afraid of the very agency sworn to protect him. Despite the potential threat to his life, even today he will not directly speak out against the authoritarianism that led to the situation he found himself in. He will not speak out against trump. The most he has done is simply not endorse trump.
So that’s how completely fucked up the republicans are. You can have your life in the balance as one of the literal highest elected officials in the nation, yet you won’t speak out. You won’t try to stop it from getting worse.
This is no different than Stalin’s regime, Mao’s, or any other uber-dictator that caused millions of deaths in the name of power and control.
I cannot possibly emphasize enough how hell-bent on boot-licking dictatorship the Republican Party must be if this is the case.
People keep pestering me about how Republicans aren't literal Nazis when I compare them to literal Nazis.
I don't want to be judicious and exact about Nazis. I want to freak out and notice when a group starts seeming like Nazis.
So due to the fact that they're probably going to kill us all now that we hesitated too many times, I'll say it at last: it's morally correct to punch people who aren't freaked out about Nazis.
People who say "they aren't as bad as the Nazis" always only think about the time after 1934 or even 1939. This, right now is the before-time. Of course they aren't as bad as the successful, established, in control Nazis yet. But if you look at the time between 1920 and 1933, when the NSDAP wasn't in power yet, the parallels are terrifying.
not helpful. childish acting out, really. i'll agree that it's justifiable to be scared but it's rarely helpful to act scared and hit people because you can't make your point to them. regardless if whether your fucked up morality tells you it's okay, it's still not helpful, it's still clearly about your own emotional needs and not about making the world better.
Your opinion is really not helpful, and the only people you're defending want you dead or subjugated. I'll agree that it's rarely helpful to be violent, but fascists aren't party to any social contract, regardless of your fucked up "pacifism at any cost (to others)" morality. Calling people childish is clearly about your own emotional needs, and not about making the world better.
Maybe the biggest reason he won't speak out is because he won't get reelected. Which is scary in itself. But, let's not pretend Pence is some sort of Saint. He is evil too.
After not having crimed Trump into a second Term, he has to know that the MAGA crowd would rather hang him than let him have any office while they're in power. So if getting elected were his primary concern, making sure Trump is not put into power would be Pence's primary objective. And he's just laying low, not working against Trump, so we can be sure that getting reelected is either not his goal or he's more afraid than he is ambitious.
Maybe they want a tyrant so they can finally exercise those second amendment rights and fulfill the fantasy they have of overthrowing a corrupt government. Can't overthrow a corrupt government if you don't elect for the government to be corrupt as fuck. 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah no.
Their fantasies are more about murdering all those they don't like. You know, the gays, the Mexicans, the blacks (oh wait, no, those will be useful as slaves again, bible says it's okay), the Muslims, the atheists, basically murder anyone not white Christian.
Funny detail though that Grindr went through the roof at the RNC. I'm sure it's purely coincidental.