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Dems Mock Trump as ‘Too Old’ to Run—Like He Did to Biden
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I kind of fear what comes next after Trump (he is old and I can't imagine him serving a full term).
He will never willingly let go of his control over his base. Trump doesn't give a single fuck about the MAGA movement beyond the fact that it is his own personal army of zombie sycophants.
His followers may be dogmatic about MAGA, but I can assure you that Trump himself is not. If he dropped dead tomorrow MAGA would instantaneously begin fizzling out, and it would fracture the Republican party.
The greatest gift trump could ever giver america is, when he loses the nomination in 2028, to run as a third party candidate. Hopefully he never lets go of his base.
Hopefully before he dies he convinces his base to give themselves the Heavens Gate treatment so they can catch the golden limousine to hell right along with him.
Based on what my true-crime cult obsessed friend has said on the matter, option 2 is probably the most likely; though the party at large will always rally behind whoever the nominee is, because that's how Republicans operate.
DeSantis already tried to court the cult of Trump, and he failed because these cults of personality are entirely fixed around their leader. As my buddy described it, it's not like a hydra where you can cut the head off and the cult keeps going. Once the leader is gone, they fizzle out. Even in the case of endorsing a successor, I can't imagine the group having the same kind of following for the same reason - without Trump, the Flavor-Aid sours. There will be new leaders, but they'll have to work to sway the core voters in the way that Trump has. And the Flavor-Aid is a perfect metaphor, because Trump sounds exactly like Jim Jones according to my friend.
This is the first time in the wild that I have seen someone correctly mention "Flavor-Aid" instead of "Kool-Aid" in reference to Jim Jones.
I would forever shame my friend if I didn't get that one right.
If anything, after Trump, he’ll be revered within the Republican party for years like Reagan was. WWTD “What Would Trump Do?” will become their new litmus test for whether a candidate is worthy or not. Republicans will try to show off their credentials of how aligned they were to “Trump’s values”.
At least they can finally stop pretending that they are "the party of Lincoln"
That makes alot of sense. However, I'm worried the Republicans reliaze there are better candidates that represent "their morals". So maybe not DeSantis but someone closer. They also will have to vote for someone.
Vance is just as scary as DeSantis imo, and we haven't seen him in an executive position yet.
Cults of personality are never quite the same once the big personality passes. They tend to fragment, shrink, or otherwise fade away. Members may join other high control organizations, but they won't be united.
Depends... If he can successfully set up a family dynasty (would probably be Ivanka and Jared he passed it on to if we're being honest), and he stayed in office until he died before passing the torch (or perhaps even stepped back as an "elder statesman" for the last few years of his death so he can work on transitioning Donald Trump diehards into Trump diehards), I could see them making this work.
These people are in deep, and most of them will do anything he tells them to do.
Trump cares about not going to jail and Trump in approximately equal amounts. No way he lets someone else take the wheel. If he somehow became president again he'd start looking at repealing the 22nd before he'd endorse anyone else.
That's a great point. However, I woulf think that there is a legal point where a president is to old and becomes mentally or physically incapable of being a president. Basically, someone in government would fight back and say this is a massive risk for the country's security.
That would be the time for the 25th. Doubt Vance would have the balls to try for it though.
Trump has none of the admirable qualities of someone who's overcome a mental disability. He oozes neurotypical privilege.
I know, I didn't let the media sway me into believing he was some genius charismatic dictator. I just think the man keeps failing upwards but his time is running out.
I mean... is extreme malignant narcissism considered neurotypical?
I kind of hope not.
He oozes wealth privilege (even if he doesn't have much left). Allows him to behave however he pleases.
He doesn't have extreme narcissism. That's a social disability. Does Trump look like his social faculties are impaired to you? His cognitive faculties are because of his dementia, but he's as charismatic as anyone, much as I hate to admit it. He's neurotypical.
A "social disability"? Is that from the DSM-5? I'll save you a quick Google: no. Even if it was, so what?
It's not a one or the other thing... There is zero chance of you ever convincing me that Donald Trump is not a narcissist. Maybe you're too young to remember the 90s, but this man has always been this way and his extreme, malignant narcissism has been a common theme for 40+ years.
I have never, once in my life, heard/saw Trump speak and thought, "this man has charisma." Sorry, just no. He just says the things the lowest common denominator wants to hear. If your foolish enough to confuse that with genuine charisma then I don't know what to say. Get out of the house more often.
Trump says what the lowest common denominator wants to hear. The lowest common denominator doesn't want to hear someone being visibly neurodivergent. Trump talks like a neurotypical. Like a privileged, white, racist asshole. He does not look like a hard working person who overcame a disability. Now stop complimenting him and realise he's ordinary filth.
I can't see Trump being the sort to try to build something beyond himself. I don't think he could see the point of trying to cultivate a successor; and even if he did, I think he would see them as potential competition - he'd likely try to sabotage them, if anything.
I would love to see Trump sabotage them. A proper consequence for betting on chaos.
Yeah, the longest lasting fascist country was spain which collapsed into a republic with the death of Francisco Franco.