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Angela Carini abandons Olympic fight after 46 seconds against Imane Khelif
(www.theguardian.com)
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Does she? First we don't know the indicator that failed the test. If it is an xy chromosome or higher testosterone. For all we know could be a bad test sample. What we do know is she is a woman. How hard would it be to just pay off an official/tester if your competitors are better than you.Secondly this lady has lost to many women with no question they are women. She isn't superior she may have advantageous genes and if we want to put a limit on that well we she should examine if Michael Phelps is to advantageous in his genes.
Yeah, ~~the boxer in question has XY chromosomes~~. Did you read the article? It's in there.
I read up more on this and my original comment was wrong.
One corrupt Russian official said this but did not give proof or point to the test. They let her compete all the way to the end of a competition let her win then claimed she has xy chromosome.
I literally quoted you the source on the Wikipedia quite literally the same one dude who claimed it from IBA. Wikipedia said media claimed this and the IBA corrupt governing body dude claimed it we are circling back to a singular one sourced claimed with out exceptional proof.
This Olympic event every individual agreed that all the individuals were fine including this woman until she got punched in the face. The IOC and Paris boxing unit said she was a woman and clear to participate(they test testosterone since that is a know steriod).
Thank you. I will look for more sources. I was just going off of this article.
No, she doesn't. Some random sexist schmuck claimed she did and idiots like you gobble it up without question. Grow a brain.
Hey.
Rude.
Yeah, after reading more on the subject you are correct. Next time just post sources.
The situation has arisen because the world championships last year was run under the auspices of the International Boxing Association, whose president, Umar Kremlev, told the Russian news agency, Tass, that DNA tests had “proved they had XY chromosomes and were thus excluded from the sports events”. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/jul/29/boxers-who-failed-gender-tests-at-world-championships-cleared-to-compete-at-olympics
"A boxer from Algeria Imane Khelif was excluded from the IBA World Boxing Championships due to the failure to meet the IBA eligibility criteria," the governing body said in a statement. "The IBA upholds its rules and regulations as well as its athletes' personal and medical privacy, the eligibility criteria breach therefore cannot be shared by the IBA." The Algerian Olympic Committee said Khelif was disqualified for "medical reasons" and that it would support her preparation for the African qualification tournament for next year's Paris Olympics. https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/two-disqualified-failing-meet-eligibility-criteria-world-champs-2023-03-26/
In your own article it say she was disqualified after winning gold medal under the rules of having xy chromosomes. Why was she allowed to compete? They don't specifically say she had xy chromosomes. They just decided to apply the rule after she won gold. They need more documentation and clearer rules. It isn't hard to spit in a jar and claim someone is not what they are. Or to have a bad sample or mix up.
There is also medical conditions that cause women to have xy chromosomes still doesn't mean they aren't women. Tons of people have genomic advantages over other people. Again Michael Phelps
Read your article again "Khelif’s thoroughly dominant showing on Thursday will only inflame the debate over whether she and Chinese Tapei’s Lin Yu‑ting should be allowed to compete at the Paris Olympics. Last year, at the World Boxing Championships in New Delhi, Khelif was disqualified hours before her gold-medal bout as a result of International Boxing Association rules that prevent athletes with XY chromosomes from competing in women’s events. The IBA disqualified Yu-Ting before her bronze medal bout for the same reason."
It says they used a rule doesn't say she has xy chromosomes. In your same article the IBA that claimed they were disqualified after they won was also stripped as a governing body of boxing since they have had tons of scandals and corruption
"The International Olympic Committee has since stripped the IBA of its status as the global governing body for boxing because of long-running governance issues and a series of judging scandals. That leaves boxing in Paris under the umbrella of the IOC’s Paris 2024 Boxing unit, which has more relaxed rules than the IBA and has chosen to disregard the results of Khelif’s and Yu-Ting’s gender eligibility tests last year"
I'm no languageist but I'd call that indirectly.
You're basically saying guilty until proven innocent here. They say she broke that rule therefore she must have. This isn't a criminal case but having actual proof goes a long way.
No direct source claims A has d. All direct sourced is Person A was disqualified from event B because of rule C saying people with D cannot compete
One last attempt. Just cause Person A was disqualified from event B because of rule C saying people with D cannot compete. You are concluding person A has D. That event runner got in trouble for corruption. There could be other conclusions than making an assumption or jumping to conclusions. Way more variables and lots to question on the even runners and even the test.
At the end of the day we should have a more confirmed test but at the end of the day all the athletes were fine with all other participants until they werent
It seems from what I read that she has this syndrome when a male doesn't develop all male features but female ones. That's why she would have high testosterone and could have other masculine features. Sucks, but absolutely something that should be addressed and already is addressed. Only that it is addressed differently in different leagues.
I think that in case of imame, no competitors issued any complaints before the Olympics even when asked directly, so she should be able to compete.
Maybe we don't know. We don't have good clear transparent and non corrupt testing. We don't even test this on every single woman. IoC said they need clearer standards if they want to kick this woman out.