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[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 47 points 4 months ago

Step one: use Dendrite instead.
Step two: come back and help me set up my Dendrite instance, it's definitely not easier.

[-] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 30 points 4 months ago

Step one: email must be much easier, I'll just make an email server instead.

Step two: screw this, I'm writing letters and posting them.

[-] Archer@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Isn’t running your own SMTP server effectively impossible nowadays?

[-] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 months ago

Running a server is very doable. There are packages to deploy and configure almost everything for you and removing a ton of headache.

Getting your email recognized as not spam by the major providers is pretty much impossible. You need all sorts of stuff to help verify integrity including special DNS records and public identity keys, but even if you do everything right, your mail can very easily get black holed before it even reaches a user's inbox because of stupid shit like someone abused your rented server's IP years ago, and you can't seem to get it off everyone's lists.

Email as a decentralized tool has effectively been ruined by spam and anti-spam measures. You're effectively forced to use a provider because it's near impossible to make your outgoing mail work as an individual. I think some of those anti-spam measures are anticompetitive, but I do think some are just desperate attempts to reduce the massive flow of spam.

[-] zrk@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

It's not impossible, many people I know and myself successfully self host their email. Yes it's not trivial, and yes the ip reputation can be annoying to deal with (but it's possible to cycle to another server to get another ip), but apart from that, if following the best practices (SPF, DKIM, DMARC, proper setup of the mailserver) once it's set up it can run for years without issue.

To set things straight, I'm not saying that it is easy, but it's also not impossible, and only giving up will further contribute to centralized email provider monoculture.

Not for everyone, but for those who can, I feel they should.

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