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OK I’m not going to lie I feel a little mixed about this one. News correspondents - even for outlets that barely qualify as “news” or in any way “journalistic” - are not enemy combatants.
Maybe it will come out that he was armed and participating in the conflict in some way, in which case obviously the lines become blurred and I don’t feel bad anymore. But I don’t see that or much other info here.
Sure but if you're in the military vehicle with military personnel your presence doesn't somehow disqualify the military vehicle from being a legitimate target.
That may or may not be the case but there are still people in this thread saying he should be killed for “spreading propaganda.”
We really shouldn't get to decide that.
Yeah, we shouldn't be trying to justify killing journalists.
He wasn't wearing UN blue with PRESS patches, instead wearing Russian camo. That's a big no no. Even non standard RA kit like black body armor is better. But you gotta wear white PRESS patches if you don't want to be mistaken for a combatant. That being said, all embedded correspondents take the risk. No situation is ideal, but a technical with military markings is absolutely fair game.
I agree no journalist should ever be targeted, regardless of their bias. Knowing Poddubny shouldn't be targeted is why I know a NYT journalist won't be targeted. They are in live combat zones though, and sadly people uninvolved do die in war.
Source: work in doc/investigative journalism
Here's an example of what his kit should look like:
On the photo he looks like a Russian soldier.
He was wearing uniform, so combatant. Also, because of his propaganda many innocent people died. The hit on him is 100% justified.
Look at the picture and his history of working in the field. He cosplayed as Russian soldiers, traveled in military vehicles and made no effort to mark himself or others as press or journalist. There is no reasonable way anyone not familiar with him would have been able to pick him out from other soldiers he was embedded with. Probably the only thing that would mark him as press would be him talking to a camera.
It’s one fucking picture!
Either way this argument misses the point. Press deaths shouldn’t be celebrated.
When their primary responsibilities are pushing propaganda they become enemy combatants. The pen is mightier, after all.
That is a war crime. Very explicitly so.
Probably wasnt individually targeted himself
That may or may not be the case but there are still people in this thread saying he should be killed for “spreading propaganda.”
It’s the internet. People will spread crazy shit everywhere. Don’t have to go far on lemmy to find an account who thinks north korea is an examplary regime. Take it all with some salt. Thankfully (for now) it isn’t representative of the opinions of most people.
Participating in state run war propaganda is just as deadly as shooting a rifle.