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Work Reform
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A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.
Our Philosophies:
- All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
- Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
- Workers must join together and fight back for what is rightfully theirs.
- We must not be divided and conquered. Workers gain the most when they focus on unifying issues.
Our Goals
- Higher wages for underpaid workers.
- Better worker representation, including but not limited to unions.
- Better and fewer working hours.
- Stimulating a massive wave of worker organizing in the United States and beyond.
- Organizing and supporting political causes and campaigns that put workers first.
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Why do you want a leader to begin with?
Leadership is a useful tool in coordinating the efforts of large numbers of people, in order to efficiently gather information, develop best practices, and accurately evaluate the results of organizational efforts.
A whip is a useful tool to force people into coordination, in order to efficiently do stuff. You may want one along your leadership.
Well done, you've indeed just described the role of Whip that a person can fulfil perfectly. And you're right, you do often need those people alongside leadership. And no, the term doesn't come from literally using a whip, though I suppose it does make for some rather evocative imagery. I do really love the term "lose the whip" to mean that someone is expelled from their own party.
It's an awful tool. It can't convey complex ideas, doesn't maintain a useful catalog of effective uses, and only works at a very limited range for a tiny number of subjects on a momentary time scale.
I might suggest replacing your whip with a library. Libraries have been far more successful at organizing and commanding large numbers of people over long periods of time. The library was arguably the most effective tool of the Pharaohs of Egypt, the Chinese Dynasts, and the Catholic Church in commanding populations by the tens of millions.
Wielding a whip makes you a nuisance. Wielding a library makes you a God.
Good you seem to be interested in libraries. Here's one with many interesting books to read:
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/michail-bakunin-god-and-the-state
See, you're not above being led. And you didn't even need to get whipped.
Do you want the current president's duties to be carried out at the snail pace of Congress?
The biggest president's duty is to lie to the public. We can do fine without that.
Don't cut yourself on that edge.
Are you pushing that 'sovereign citizen' nonsense?
You may believe that you aren't a part of the system, but the system is much bigger than you are and it has other ideas.