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[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 46 points 4 months ago

lol a meme is literally just an idea.

Free exchange of ideas is the core concept of democracy.

[-] Kelly@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Exactly, and the report uses the term "memetic" to distinguish from its frequent use to mean "image macro". Unfortunately the article headline chose to confuse things.

"Advanced memetic engineering attacks could progressively undermine trust in financial markets and institutions, causing a steady, incremental impact on market stability rather than a sudden breakdown“
RAND Corporation, Technological and Economic Threats to the US Financial System, July 2024

The article body does a good job covering the topic, its a shame they chose such a clumsy headline.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Image memes were never the only memes in internet lingo, and the original Dawkins term is exactly how they're using it, as the analogue for gene, but with ideas generally. That's all fine.

But that makes their core concept "people might spread ideas we don't like".

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

people might spread ideas we dont like

So how would that even be justiciable?

[-] semperverus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago
[-] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Is this just trying to say 'propaganda' (latin participle for "things that should be disseminated") with fancier words?

[-] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Therefore, may I say, the free exchange of ideas poses a threat to the US financial system. May I add "It always was".

[-] Gigasser@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Would you say that memes(in the sense of ideas with memetic properties that allow it to spread virally with great efficiency) such as QAnon or antivax, are they good for a democratic society? How about meme complexes(a collection of memes) like fascism or authoritarian ideologies? Don't get me wrong, exchange of ideas are good, but there are certain memes and ideas that must be argued against and fought, perhaps with our own memes and meme complexes. And if these memes and ideas are made less viable in terms of their ability to spread from the vaccine of counterargument and counter memery, then I say that's good.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Argued against, absolutely.

It cannot be a democracy if they're prevented from being able to share any ideas, insane or not.

[-] Gigasser@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I think there's a limit to that though, infohazards like how to make a bomb from common household materials and the like for example. In fact, the show mythbusters once made an episode about this exact topic, and they thank God, decided that it'd be responsible to censor/not air one of the tests they had conducted as it would be harmful if such information got out. Statistically, you know a few people would've tried out that recipe and blown their fingers off or something. I'm pretty sure I know what that compound was, and it's the same explosive that basically got the TSA banning liquid containers over 100mls or some shit.

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