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Lemmy devs are considering making all votes public - have your say (github.com)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by rimu@piefed.social to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Probably better to post in the github issue rather than replying here.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4967

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[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago

I accept if a dozen people can see my votes.

That's not what you're saying.

Ultimately I'm not invested in this decision. If the instance wants to watch people vote then people stop voting truly or at all.

[-] adam@doomscroll.n8e.dev 13 points 4 months ago

Except, if you're using anything other than Lemmy at this point that information is already about. The Likes/Dislikes are considered public information by the protocol. Lemmy devs probably just didn't get around to building out the UI for that before the Reddit APIcolypse.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

If anything, Lemmy devs should work on methods to obscure user identities, not expose them.

One of the biggest issues with the fediverse is very specifically how much user information can be exposed outside your home instance. As has been pointed out in this thread, it is very easy for rogue instance admins to set up quiet data mining instances.

It seems like it should be relatively straightforward for certain activities, like votes and telemetry, to be anonymized/tokenized for the purposes of federation, since that information all propagates outward from the home instance anyway.

[-] nutomic@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

Lemmy actually marks votes as private for federation, but it seems that kbin/mbin ignore that.

[-] adam@doomscroll.n8e.dev 1 points 4 months ago

Ahh, didn't even know there was a flag for that. I don't suppose you could link to the relevant w3c or FEP for it?

[-] nutomic@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#public-addressing

Next time try reading the spec before asking.

[-] adam@doomscroll.n8e.dev 2 points 4 months ago

How about you assume less? I spent 40+ minutes looking for this here, here, here and here and I'm already fairly familiar having done work on two other ActivityPub based projects.

In addition public-addressing (or the lack of use thereof) in no way claims to achieve what you've stated - which is probably why it's not the answer to my query.