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[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 97 points 4 months ago

When things are bad and the economy sucks, prices go up. When things are great and the economy is good, prices go up.

[-] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 48 points 4 months ago

Corporate fucking greed has ruined this country, and you can thank the fucking republikkklowns for it.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 23 points 4 months ago

The USA was founded on capitalist ideals. This is the system working as intended.

The price will be whatever the market will bear. Right now, they're figuring out exactly what the market will bear. They'll step back from the line just a little bit then slowly creep up over time to reclaim all the profits.

If you're old enough to remember, this happened with fuel prices not super long ago. Prices were sent just north of ~ $3/gallon, and there was outrage. The prices dropped back to somewhat normal levels and everything resumed but the prices always kept trending higher and higher, now, we barely even flinch at $3/gal, and often, that's considered a good price for fuel.... At least, it is where I am.

The same people who were outraged by it now seek it out. This isn't any different. They spiked prices, now sales are falling like a brick. They'll bring it down to something "more reasonable" in the near future to recover sales, then over the next 5-10 years they slowly jack it back up to the current price and beyond and we will barely even notice.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Exactly. Democrats won't fix that principle; they may (eventually, maybe, years into the future) raise minimum wages, which would be helpful for a while, but they cannot stop capitalism being capitalism.

And, dependent on capitalist donors just like Republicans, they won't be able to take radical action against the status quo.

This is what many blame the failure of Biden administration to make economic reforms on - Democrats, too, play under the rule of the market, just less openly than Republicans, which is why they always try to find scapegoats to sabotage the most radical plans even when they take the majority of seats.

That's not to say you should vote A or B. That's just to mention that Democrats are not your friends and saviors, and they can only be seen as a lesser evil until people organize, come out on the streets and demand loud and proud what they deserve. They have nothing to lose but shackles.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

I think we agree that capitalism is the problem.

[-] curse_of_yig@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

If you were expecting Biden to end capitalism in America that was your fault for having terrible expectations.

We live in a market capitalist country. It isn't going to suddenly become socialist. End of story.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago

I never had those, but some people still believe Biden or Harris or some other democrat will come and build socialism.

No.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago

Brother, free yourself from the partisan bullshit and realize both sides work to favor capitalism. And there are people on both sides that oppose this corporate greed.

I get it, the Republican Party is a fucking shit show right now. But don’t let that fool you into thinking Democrats have your best interest in mind.

[-] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago

Brother, take that both sides bullshit and shove it straight up your ass while reading project 2025.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee -4 points 4 months ago

Very introspective and thought provoking. 👍🏽

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

When prices don't go up, economists get super scared and tell governments to print money.

Inflation is a secret tax on non-land owners.

[-] Good_morning@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 4 months ago

Exactly, if you're wages/salary doesn't increase at the rate of inflation you are making less money than the year before in terms of buying power. If your raise just meets inflation you're simply treading water.

[-] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

no. when things are good there are guillotines instead of prices.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 months ago

Guillotine aren't a sign of good times. They're a sign of times so bad that violence has become the only viable way of salvaging them in the eyes of the majority. They may be harbingers of good times, but they don't indicate them.

[-] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

semantics. you know what I was saying.

dead little girls in coal mines? there are dead little girls in coal mines instead of prices, or the normal dead people of all ages and genders on the streets I have to fucking walk past every day.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 months ago

I don't think I understand. When things are good, there are dead little girls in coal mines?

[-] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

russian revolution. nevermind.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago

Ah, I'm unfortunately not familiar with that one. I only know the Guillotines from the French revolution, where they indicated the worst of times.

[-] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

no, they were the end of the worst of times. the fact that guillotines were a massive improvement is an indicator of how fucking monstrous the centuries of white terror had been.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago

Ah, so it's a matter of contrast? The guillotines are a sign of good times, relative to the even worse times before?

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