835
Check the facts (files.catbox.moe)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] JohnBrownII@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago

The 13th Amendment did not abolish slavery. It made it a punishment for a crime

[-] Blackout@fedia.io 19 points 4 months ago

Slavery is still the best way to make money if you own slaves. Elon Musk knows this.

[-] atocci@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Sounds like Jonathan still has a chance to redeem himself then

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 17 points 4 months ago

I mean, Big J IS a tortoise. I'm pretty sure he's been working on social justice, but you know, it's going kinda slowly.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Of course he only cares about soshell issues. Typical self-serving reptile politician.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Why do you assume Jonathan isn't the reason the 13th amendment doesn't abolish slavery?

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

No, it abolished slavery with an exception carved out for punishment for crime.

The difference is important. Saying it was "made a punishment" suggests that before the amendment that option didn't exist. It did. The 13th amendment just clarified that that use was allowed to continue.

But, it's also worth noting that in the late 1700s and early 1800s imprisonment was uncommon, and a lot of crimes just carried the death penalty. In England, pickpocketing more than the modern equivalent of about $40 could result in a death penalty. Same with cutting down trees, or stealing from a rabbit warren. For less serious crimes there were the stocks, whipping, and fines. England had an option that wasn't available to the US: transportation. Australia was originally a penal colony, and the people sent there were forced to labour until their sentences were up.

Prisons (along with their work programs) were seen as a new, progressive idea that could potentially reform a prisoner, rather than just killing / punishing them.

this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2024
835 points (97.3% liked)

Lemmy Shitpost

27215 readers
3922 users here now

Welcome to Lemmy Shitpost. Here you can shitpost to your hearts content.

Anything and everything goes. Memes, Jokes, Vents and Banter. Though we still have to comply with lemmy.world instance rules. So behave!


Rules:

1. Be Respectful


Refrain from using harmful language pertaining to a protected characteristic: e.g. race, gender, sexuality, disability or religion.

Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.

...


2. No Illegal Content


Content that violates the law. Any post/comment found to be in breach of common law will be removed and given to the authorities if required.

That means:

-No promoting violence/threats against any individuals

-No CSA content or Revenge Porn

-No sharing private/personal information (Doxxing)

...


3. No Spam


Posting the same post, no matter the intent is against the rules.

-If you have posted content, please refrain from re-posting said content within this community.

-Do not spam posts with intent to harass, annoy, bully, advertise, scam or harm this community.

-No posting Scams/Advertisements/Phishing Links/IP Grabbers

-No Bots, Bots will be banned from the community.

...


4. No Porn/ExplicitContent


-Do not post explicit content. Lemmy.World is not the instance for NSFW content.

-Do not post Gore or Shock Content.

...


5. No Enciting Harassment,Brigading, Doxxing or Witch Hunts


-Do not Brigade other Communities

-No calls to action against other communities/users within Lemmy or outside of Lemmy.

-No Witch Hunts against users/communities.

-No content that harasses members within or outside of the community.

...


6. NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.


-Content that is NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.

-Content that might be distressing should be kept behind NSFW tags.

...

If you see content that is a breach of the rules, please flag and report the comment and a moderator will take action where they can.


Also check out:

Partnered Communities:

1.Memes

2.Lemmy Review

3.Mildly Infuriating

4.Lemmy Be Wholesome

5.No Stupid Questions

6.You Should Know

7.Comedy Heaven

8.Credible Defense

9.Ten Forward

10.LinuxMemes (Linux themed memes)


Reach out to

All communities included on the sidebar are to be made in compliance with the instance rules. Striker

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS