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I only got 7 a year and I live in Europe...
That's 7 more than most Americans get
No but jokes aside where are you from so I don't move there
It looks like the average is 11 PTO days a year according to Forbes, with nearly a third of employees getting zero. I myself get 24 days a year with it going up to 29 in about a year. That said I'm terrified of being effed over by layoffs so I've been hoarding them like a dragon for the payout, which is arguably way way worse than having a nice federal minimum of PTO days.
Just make sure you actually do get a payout, had a friend screwed over by that recently.
Probably Turkey. Euro wannabes 😂
Netherlands. Fuck turkey lmao. The only thing turkeys are good for is being eaten during Thanksgiving.
Well either your employer was acting illegally or you were only working a few hours per week, which is it?
Minimum is 20 days in the Netherlands
I think or rather hope he confused vacation days with bank holidays.
I got 7 weeks per year atm
I think a lot of people thought you meant days.
Yea
I wouldn't want to live in Turkey, but they do have good food.
The average American has 11 vacation days a year.
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/pto-statistics/
I have unlimited plus my birthday off, once a quarter we all take off, a week for 4th of July, two weeks for Christmas and new years plus twenty holidays.
This is pretty standard for any job I’ve had.
I'm an electrician. How am I supposed to do this?
Unlimited ?
Pretty standard now days. The only limit is I have to get my work done and it can’t be more than 4 weeks at a time. Oddly it can’t be used if you’re sick. You have to use sick time for being sick. That’s only 12 weeks but that’s when disability would kick in.
Wait, so you get "unlimited" paid vacation days? That sounds like complete corporate bullshit to me.. Who decideds when/if "work is done" or not? Even if your work isn't done (there is always more to do), you still deserve vacation/days off.
How many paid vacation days do people take on average a year? How many did you take this year/last year? What happens if your company decides that you have taken too many vacation days this year, will they mention it you want to discuss wages? What happens if someone doesn't take a minimum number of vacation days a year, will they be forced to take them or will they get praise for being a "hard worker"?
You're right to be wary of unlimited. It's primarily a way for employers to avoid having to pay out accrued vacation time when staff leave. And create the competitive environment you mentioned over taking few days vs a lot. It seems great at first glance but I'd prefer a set number of days, no ambiguity that way.
I decide.
On average? 4-8 weeks.
If you had read my comment, you’d see we are forced to take a eeek in July, two weeks for the end of the year and 20 holidays.
I take very little time off. I feel like I’m already off most the time.
Oh please, then you could just "decide" to take every other month off and nobody would care, you would get paid the same,etc , you can't tell me that's the case..
Right, so 3 weeks vacation and you can't even decide when to take them. Sounds like a pretty shitty deal to me..
It seems that way, yes, so what good does "unlimited vacation" do?
Are you a hiring agent or something? What's next, are you going to tell me that your company is like "a family"?
Maybe someone like you would do that but I enjoy working. If I don't have my deliverables in then I would get terminated for performance. I take plenty of time off.
It allows me to take off as much as I want. With three weeks mandatory and twenty days for holidays, I take another 4 weeks off. How much more time does someone need?
Right, so you don't decide shit, your company decides.
Clearly it doesn't, that's the point..
In my opinion? At least 5-6 weeks a year, but guaranteed and enforced by law. More is a matter of negotiation. No paying it out (unless you resign), no saving it up for next year (apart from a few days), not counting holydays, illness and paternity.
I don't get why you keep writing as if you want to hire me.. You don't need to justfy your working conditions to me, if you are happy, good for you.. I'm simply telling you that if it was me, I wouldn't trust shit like "unlimited vacation days"..
No I decide. I plan around my work.
5-6 weeks? If you add what I take off I’m well over that. I’m around 20 holidays. 4 quarter days. Birthday. 3 weeks mandatory. I’m minimum 12 weeks a year.
Have no interest in hiring you. You don’t have the skills or work ethic to work where I work. Look how you’re arguing about something you have no knowledge about. That isn’t the type of person we’d hire.
Keep telling yourselve that, my friend.
It was 4-8 weeks when I asked you, now it's 12 weeks minimum. Good for you.
Obviously I have no interest in a company as you work at, that's my entire point..
I'm telling you that this concept of "unlimited vacation days" sounds like, in my personal view, a shitty deal.. As I told you, if you are happy with the deal, that's great, no need to get so fucking defensive..
Also pretty funny that you tell me about my work ethic despite not knowing me at all while complaining that I'm "arguing about something I have no knowledge about" 😂
I work for a well known (international) business in the USA that used to be known for it's good benefits. Man are they ass now. 14 days a yr, 21 after 5 years, and could work your way up to 6 weeks at 30yrs. no lunch break, no pension, and some expensive health insurance that covers nothing. Now it used to be 21 starting 28 after 5 yrs, a pension and a lunch break, with some impressive healthcare. And they took away the upper limit of vacation you could get to be 4? IIRC After 30 years. (So 1 extra week after 5 years, then one more after another 25).
The pay is fine but no nearly what it used to be. It used to be $10+ over the competition, now it's barely $1. They are hurting to hire because of it too
Which country has such a low minimum? Or was that not a full time job?
He means weeks, not days
The European minimum is 10 I think