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What made everyone move to Bluesky or Threads instead of Mastodon? (lemmy.zip)

submitted 3 months ago by dch82@lemmy.zip to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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What made everybody move from a corporate social media platform to another corporate social media platform instead of the fediverse?

After all, the Fediverse and Activitypub is much more mature than Bluesky and the copycat AT protocol or Threads and ... whatever they use.

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[-] ngwoo@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

To many, federation is a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist for them. In their mind, the early model of federation is like email, a problem that was "solved" years ago by having one corporate product that was much better than others (Gmail).

To add, on top of that, the fediverse is like if gmail could just randomly decide to stop receiving emails from outlook addresses and there's nothing any user can do about it except make another email for when they want to email outlook users.

I don't think fediverse proponents know just how catastrophically this terminates their entire pitch in the minds of 99% of internet users

[-] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago

if gmail could just randomly decide to stop receiving emails from outlook addresses and there’s nothing any user can do about it

This is the case right now.

There's good reasons GMail doesn't do that, but there's absolutely nothing technical preventing from doing that, and I can't think of anything that legally prevents them from doing that.

[-] waldi@chaos.social 1 points 12 hours ago

@bss03 @ngwoo I have never reasd their contract. But isn't it in the USA as well that you can't redefine the primary purpose of a contract, which would be to deliver, receive and store e-mail?

[-] Mio@feddit.nu 2 points 3 months ago

Not leagaly but users will be frustated and leave. They will rollback within a day so you will not need to worry too much.

[-] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 3 months ago

"users will be frustated and leave" exactly the same thing can happen to an instance that adds an instance (or wildcard domain) block. I'd be very surprised if no instance has ever rolled back a block.

Users don't need to worry about instance blocks on ActivityPub, any more than they have to worry about DNS RBLs for email.