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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

They're not going to like it when China tells them it's payback time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt-trap_diplomacy

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 10 points 3 months ago

West: exploits countries, gives nothing back

China: exploits countries, gives public transport and jobs at high price

Western citizens: Hah! Look at those dumb countries!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago

Why don't you look into how much of Ethiopia's GDP goes to paying back China.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 9 points 3 months ago

Why don't you look into how much of Africa's resources exit the continent for Western use at a fraction of the actual price?

Who do you think put African countries in the precarious positions they are in where they feel nearly obliged to look at seemingly better deals?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago

Ethiopia isn't giving over 10% of their GDP to Western countries.

I know, I know, "West bad, China good." Believe it or not, this isn't some sort of balancing act. Both the U.S. and China can have imperialist intentions in Africa. You don't have to defend one to condemn the other.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 3 months ago

You didn't grasp what I wrote. Let me spell it out for you: Bad west make Africa poor. Poor Africa want better option. Poor Africa make better deal (still bad though) with bad China. Better not always mean good.

Do you understand now?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Okay. Sure. The better of two terrible options. Sort of like the least smelly turd.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago

Yep, but who's going to give them a better option? Western citizens would have to vote for governments that don't consider exploitation a "necessary evil" and for politicians that want enforcement of a fair trade supply chain. A prosperous Africa would mean more legal and most importantly highly skilled immigration.

But western citizens aren't willing to accept higher prices for goods as a result, so they don't vote that way. Instead it's easier to consume indiscriminately and whine when the people living in squalor dare look for a better life abroad.

[-] schizoidman@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the paywalled op ed.

[-] Salph@infosec.pub 7 points 3 months ago
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