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submitted 3 months ago by fart_pickle@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I'm following several privacy focused communities. Mostly as lurker but in few I'm more active. Every time I see a posts like "how to be more private", I wonder about the reasons behind those questions. What's the reason you want to remain private (don't confuse it with being anonymous)? Could you elaborate on your reasons?

Let me start.

I worked (and still working) in a highly regulated industry as a software/devops engineer. I've been working with banks, insurance companies, global online payment companies, major credit card vendors, few global corporations. I have seen how data is gathered and (mis)used. Every time someone tells me "I'm sorry but the system..." I know it's the data gathered by the "system" and my profile created based on that data was the reason for "but". This is why I care about the privacy, to prevent companies from taking advantage of my current situation and charge me more.

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[-] Vanth@reddthat.com 14 points 3 months ago

Those details are unnecessary for this conversation. Cops used Facebook private messages to build a case to prosecute an illegal abortion.

They have established the process and the precedent, next time it will be a woman only 5 months pregnant. Or who has an ectopic pregnancy and is past six weeks. Or was raped. Or isn't in a financial situation suitable for raising a child. Or simply doesn't want a child. It doesn't matter the details, cops have and will use private messages to prosecute women getting abortions.

The arguments that "because of her one comment about wanting to wear jeans again means she was just a careless, shallow woman who didn't want to take responsibility for her actions and got what she deserved" is a load of crap. Not saying you are doing that solely, but that is not a good argument for not caring about privacy.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

You're welcome to your opinion, but I feel the bolded section is distinctly relevant.

If you want privacy, don't admit to a crime and tell the cops where to find the evidence. Privacy starts at home with proper OPSEC.

That's the story. It has very little to do with the specific crime committed.

The cops did as the cops do: if they are given a lead, particularly by the perp themselves, they investigate. To not do so would be to not do their job.

There was no new precedent here. This was not some brand new enforcement of a new law, and the chats were not the definitive evidence in the trial. Cops using Facebook chat transcripts were likewise not something newly established in this case.


The rest is me emphasizing that this lady was not a martyr, with the jeans comment being the least damning part of it all. Meant as a lead up to the bold.

She overwhelmingly had the ability to do what she needed to do, safely and legally. That has to mean something. And if it doesn't mean shit to you, I know for a fact it means something to the people who want to take your reproductive rights away, or to ignore the very real dangers you're worried about.

That said this is not the first step down that slope that you're acting like it is, and it is not some datapoint on a downward trend towards what you are afraid of. This is a intersection of already existing problems that someone thought they could spin for clicks and emotion bait, and it overwhelmingly worked.

Stay safe, take steps to prevent ending up in that situation, only discuss dangerous shit using safe protocols, and for fuck's sake don't tell the cops where the evidence is.

[-] tee900@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Thanks for giving the details so i didnt have to. Totally misrepresnted situation. Politicized and details omitted for shock value. Super annoying to hear about this story in the context of privacu or abortion rights

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