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[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 3 months ago

I'm saying that voting Democrat so they have enough control to get these bills passed will let them complete the course they are already on so that you can get what you want.

After student loan reforms and ACA, which both costs me money directly and solved absolutely nothing, I am done with Democrat's reforms... or Republican for that matter.

I think you are literally missing the key piece from my analysis... we are living under a two-party regime voting for either party is voting for the status quo.

You counter: IF YOU JUST VOTE FOR MY GUY ONE MORE TIME, WE MIGHT GET VOTING REFORM.

Bruhh... i am past this point. I think other people are getting close too.

We can't keep voting these clowns and expect different results.

[-] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Both the student loans and the ACA were actively gutted by Republicans, so they are a perfect example of why getting Republicans out is beneficial to you. You want student loan forgiveness? Get rid of the Republicans that are blocking it. You want single-payer or socialized medicine? Get rid of the Republicans that are blocking it. Both have been introduced by Democrats, both were voted on along party lines and failed due to Republicans.

You are missing my point: you are only hurting yourself and your goals with that strategy. Voting third party only helps Republicans and isn't seen as any kind of protest by anyone who matters. No one says you have to LIKE voting for either of the parties, but only one party is closer to your goals, is actively trying to achieve your goals, and has a chance of actually getting elected so your goals can be achieved.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -2 points 3 months ago

Both the student loans and the ACA were actively gutted by Republicans

So regime won... again. Are you making my point for me here lol

You want student loan forgiveness?

I did not say this.

You want single-payer or socialized medicine?

We had Dem President and both houses... we got ACA... "just vote for my guy this one more time, i spear we will get healthcare" Like how many times do plebs have to this trick?

You are missing my point: you are only hurting yourself and your goals with that strategy.

That is your opinion. I got mine. People can make up their minds for themselves, which is the entire point of this discussion.

Voting third party only helps Republicans and isn't seen as any kind of protest by anyone who matters.

I said I don't care about either party. I care do care to deny them my vote.

but only one party is closer to your goals

Historical records and current trends say the opposite.

Bottom line: the REGIME IS NOT THE ANSWER, the sooner people figure this out, the quicker we can move forward.

Entire point of voting for either party is to keep the status quo. Reform within this election framework is impossible. ONLY other alternative if violence but everybody but brain dead trump voters know this is a bad idea for peasants. We will get killed by volumes.

The only alternative left is to DENY ENGAGEMENT.

this post was submitted on 14 Sep 2024
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