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[-] halo5@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

And this is why I choose Debian...

[-] woelkchen@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

And this is why I choose Debian…

You mean the distribution where Canonical has in the past outright bought votes to align Debian closer to Ubuntu? If you think I'm making shit up, look up the fiasco that led to the insanely protracted (roughly a year) very public debate about making Upstart the default init system. Here's a tldr from a German IT website:

Besides SysV Init, which is currently used by Debian, there is Systemd, which is mainly developed by Red Hat, Canonical's own Upstart, and OpenRC, which is developed by Gentoo. Only Systemd and Upstart are believed to have a chance. It is unlikely that SysV Init will remain, OpenRC cannot keep up with Upstart or Systemd in terms of technology and innovation. More and more Linux distributions are turning to Systemd, while Upstart is currently used exclusively by Canonical, after Red Hat used it for RHEL 6 and Fedora 9, but is relying on Systemd for RHEL 7.

The two committee members who have already made their opinions known are former Canonical employee Ian Jackson and Russ Allbery. While Jackson favors Upstart, Allbery is clearly in favor of Systemd. Two other members, Colin Watson and Steve Langasek, both employed by Canonical, will probably only support Upstart. The other members are Don Armstrong, Andreas Barth and Keith Packard, newly elected to the committee, as well as chairman Bdale Garbee.

Original: https://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/20622/debatte-um-das-init-system-bei-debian-8-h%C3%A4lt-an.html Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version).

It's now less public but Canonical still has its tentacles in Debian with Snap and such.

[-] mimichuu_@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Debian is 100% community run, it cannot "have tentacles" in it. There is no leader that takes the choices that can be influenced.

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