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The US presidential election remains on a knife-edge 45 days before voters go to the polls, despite Kamala Harris enjoying one of her most encouraging spells of opinion polling since becoming the Democrats’ nominee nearly two months ago.

During yet another momentous week that began with a suspected second assassination attempt against Donald Trump, the latest Guardian 10-day polling averages survey shows Harris increasing her lead to 2.6 points, 48.5% to 45.9%.

While still within error margins, that is an improvement of the 0.9% edge Harris held last week and a significant shift from the statistical dead heat of a fortnight ago before the candidates held their only scheduled televised debate in Philadelphia on 10 September.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

But how do you even make an educated guess anymore? So few people answer their phone now that there's no way you'll get any idea.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

They use other survey methods. Go read any methodology and it will describe how they collected their data.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

But that would require learning stuff instead of spouting off whatever negative shit feels good

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

They just keep going down the list until they have enough respondents to use for the data.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I don't think there is a list of phone numbers out there that can give you anything close to an educated guess for people under 30. They don't even like to talk on the phone. They'd rather be texted.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Polling companies have a standard number of people they need that will cover their demographic requirements (ie: age, income, location). They keep going down their list of phone numbers until those requirements are fulfilled.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

But again, how can they accurately get that in terms of opinion when so few people under 30 are willing to answer their phones? It doesn't matter what your demographics are when you're still restricted to the small number of people under 30 that are willing to answer their phones, making them outliers to begin with.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Their lists are millions of names long. It takes them a lot longer than it did 30 years ago, but they slog away at it until they get enough.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

It's faster. They use more methods than just calling, but the calls can be automated and the data entry digitized. (I know there are restrictions on robodialing, but I'm sure surveys have an exemption or approval process.)

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Nanos in Canada still does it the old way.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I would suggest that the fact that the polls are all over the map supports my point.

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