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Checked: The BC Conservatives’ Claims about Trans People
Hm, that source makes some rather dubious statements, imo:
This is a bit misleading as John was providing an example that spinal surgeons get less allotted time to do spinal surgeries than what is allotted for gender affirming surgeries:
Now, of course, John's claim is also flawed, as just because one doctor has less time for one specific treatment than another doctor for another treatment doesn't mean that the latter's treatment is being favored more than the former's. There's no proof in this example that the spinal surgeon is sitting idle when not doing spinal surgeries, or that they are being offset by the gender affirming surgeries. That being said, for clarity, this is not a statement that one should be favored over the other, I'm simply speaking objectively based on the claims.
This fact check is a strawman — it doesn't address the original claim.
First, regarding
This should also be taken with the following excerpt:
When the fact check is taken with this second bit, it is technically true (in that there may not be a reliable way to universally establish the competitive fairness between two people), but both John and the fact checker are somewhat missing the mark for the issue of strength/performance differences between groups of people that put competitors at an unfair disadvantage. Fist, the exact linguistic definition of the term "female"/"women"/etc. is very important here, second it's crucial to look at, and define, the exact traits that make competition unfair in the respective competition, and, to that end, what extent "fairness" is to be achieved. It's a complicated issue, and rather philosophically driven, and is often subject to borderline disingenuous levels of reductionism.
Second, looking at
The article doesn't appear to cite anything for this claim. I would certainly like to know more about why they are stating that as logic would dictate that if you have one person who is substantially stronger than another person, then the weaker person would be at a disadvantage if the competition in question favors strength.