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[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You talk like Nintendo games weren't optimized to hell and back.

Edit: I meant games developed by Nintendo. Pokemon is developed by Game Freak.

[-] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

The new Pokemon games grind to a halt if you are in the south of the map and look at the north. Because you are rendering the entire map. How is that optimized to hell and back?

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago

Those aren't developed by Nintendo, but by Game Freak. Compare those to Mario Cart, Mario Odysee, Zelda BotW and TotK, etc.

[-] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Well, game freak is still a Japanese developer. Mario Cart is a very computationally light concept, as usually are Mario games, idk about odyssey in particular though, but they tend to be small maps with small amount of entities each. Zelda is fair, I've heard good things about it.

It's easy to make a good performing game if its concept and art design are computationally light. Optimization is about turning a computationally hard problem into a light algorithm that doesn't take much resources.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago

Not claiming that all japanese devs are like Nintendo. Just that there is some variety.

Mariko Kart is graphically quite complex for the hardware it's running on, so are Mario games (these maps are neither small nor do they have only few entities). There's a german youtuber who analyses the technical aspects of many nintendo games and given his report: it's amazing how good these games look on the switch.

Optimization is about turning a computationally hard problem into a light algorithm that doesn't take much resources.

Yeah. And Nintendo's first party games look incredible for the hardware they run on.

[-] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Zelda is fair, I've heard good things about it.

Breath of the Wild actually had quite a lot of frame drops in the Lost Woods. I remember it was a topic of discussion for a while.

I don't remember for sure if Tears of the Kingdom suffered from the same issues or not.

[-] yonder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Tears of the kingdom runs worse than BOTW. The game feels like it's running at 15fps when anything remotely complex is happening. It's running on a phone processor though so the performance is forgivable.

[-] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Thinking on it more, I do remember the game pausing to load whenever I dove quickly into the depths.

[-] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

They haven't been optimised in over a decade at this point.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Have you seen TotK, Mario Odysee, etc.?

[-] SRo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Have you seen them?! Obviously not.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago
[-] SRo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

They are all technically a mess.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

How? How is a game that would have been considered impossible on the hardware "technically a mess"?

[-] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago

Have you seen the pokemon games?

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago

Are those developed by Nintendo?

[-] Sheldan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Optimization died when hw limitations are less severe

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 months ago

Good thing the Switch is very limited, I guess?

[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago
[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

... was not developed by Nintendo.

Pokemon games sell, no mattersif the are/run like shit. That's why Game Freak doesn't put the effort in.

[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I thought it meant Nintendo exclusives, my mistake

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

Could've specified "developed by Nintendo". At least you're not claiming that Mario and TotK was "technically a mess".

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