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Huh? The conflict is at least as old as 1834 (Ottoman empire fell in 1922) and they've been trading blows since well before that.
What was occurring in 1834?
Secretarian religious violence in Israel with proto Israeli terrorists involved. Notably the order issued to murder any Muslim found in Hebron. Many families were removed and would never return with proto Israeli Jews taking "abandoned" property and refusing to relinquish it to this day.
It's a very very old territorial and secretarian conflict, trying to imply it's summer limited modern engagement lacks nuance and is at best myopic.
Palestine was a territory of the Ottoman Empire at the time. Israel did not exist.
From what I can gather online there was a peasant revolt, but nothing sectarian about it. The Ottomans pillaged the villages during and after the revolt.
The movement towards Israeli as a state is a direct result of the actions of 1834, that's specifically why I mentioned it.
Then you didn't read.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1834_looting_of_Safed
The problem with this opinion is that it's not based on fact: the Zionist movement originated in Europe as a result of pogroms there, not in the Middle East.
The problem with that opinion is it's not ~~hard~~ based on fact, the families that fled often ended up in Europe. ~~Still~~Some of which were later displaced again by pograms in Europe.
It's literally in the history of Zionism written by avowed Zionists. You might as well argue with water about how wet it may or may not be.