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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by mfat@lemdro.id to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

I have an old ThinkPad 11e running Debian that I have repurposed into a home server. It's only supposed to run TVheadend. I don't need any other services for now, but later on i might add a few using docker.

Is it enough to set multiuser.target as default to disable gui and keep the system always on?

How can I disable all unnecessary services and minimize power usage?

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[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 23 points 3 days ago

In case you didn't already do that: remove the battery. It's probably dead anyway, you don't need it and it poses a potential (albeit low) risk.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 days ago

Depends. Usually it is still good as a UPS for a few minutes, and some laptops have a bios option to limit full charge which lowers the risk even further.

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

And how much need is there for a UPS in this scenario - realistically.

Some of the people here take their admin-LARPing a tad too seriously. Most households have reliable enough electricity, and even if there's an outage once every quarter, would a dead battery even help?

I advocate for being realistic with one's own needs. Don't build a five-nines datacenter for a glorified weather station or VCR.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago

The nice thing about some battery backup is not keeping it running during an outage, but safely shutting it all down.

I agree on the laptop battery, I'm just disagreeing on battery backup. It serves a purpose, as does decent surge elimination.

[-] richieadler@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Most households have reliable enough electricity

US defaultism in action, it seems.

[-] realbadat@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

US power sucks plenty!

Texas is an extreme example, but outages happen everywhere. It was only a bit over 10 years ago when Sandy basically hit half the US and took power out in the tristate area for weeks. With climate change making things worse...

But even when things are running well, not including the random downed line or busted transformers, its still better to give your hardware clean power and avoid the small spikes.

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

The US default, that I never left Europe. What an achievement for the USA!

[-] Lemongrab@lemmy.one -1 points 2 days ago

This is true, the USA is better and it is invading your soul.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That is why I said it depends. There are many places where electricity cuts for a short duration are quite frequent. Often you don't even notice it, but a 24/7 server would be effected.

In general, I think the risk of laptop batteries catching fire is overstated especially if you limit the charge to 80% or so. So weighting these two issues against each other you can come out either way, but I think for most places it will come down towards a UPS being nice to have.

[-] realbadat@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

Worth taking a look at the battery - especially an old one on a repurposed device - before considering it safe. Spicy pillows happen.

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Everything has pros and cons. I've seen 3 laptops (of my family) with batteries that looked like a baloon after several years. I've subsequently removed or replaced them. I'd definitely check on them every now and then. A UPS is nice. Burning down a house isn't. I haven't seen them catch on fire (yet), they supposedly have at least some protection. But definitely get them out of the laptop once they're dead anyways or don't look alright. Everyone is responsible to make that decision on their own. Take care.

[-] mfat@lemdro.id 2 points 3 days ago

Thanks. Yeah I'll do that. Is it also possible to enable auto power on after power outage and restore? My celeron mini pc has this feature.

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago

That's typically a feature for servers or business desktops. Maybe your laptop has it, just look into the BIOS.

As I wrote in my other comment: try to be realistic about your needs. Chances are, pressing the power button every few months (if at all) is perfectly fine for your use case (and most others here).

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