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[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 58 points 16 hours ago

And what? If someone can live with ads, they can stay. Otherwise anyone can install Firefox. I was all-in Google since the beginning of Gmail. And switching to Firefox was completely painless. Everything works the same, times of website incompatibility are long gone.

[-] Integrate777@discuss.online 16 points 11 hours ago

What if websites decide that chrome users earn much more ad revenue and start forcing users to switch with those "This website only supports Chrome" error messages? What if this practice gets popular? I'm sure there are ways to get around it, but the average users who bothered switching to Firefox at all, will just conclude that anything except chrome has a bad browsing experience.

[-] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

i never understood how those messages work? like how would using firefox ruin your website? or how they even detect firefox in the first place lmfao

[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Can't you have your Firefox browser just report itself as chrome?

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

You certainly can. They don't know what you're doing.

[-] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 8 hours ago

Visit about:compat. Sites already do that. Firefox can deal.

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Then apple would whip out their giant throbbing cock and smack them with it because they want people using safari.

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 71 points 16 hours ago

Because Google is trying to turn the internet into a walled garden where only people with Chrome can visit the majority of websites.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 19 points 15 hours ago

I've been been a full time Firefox user for three years now. Haven't experience a single problem like that. Haven't really experienced any problem at all to be honest

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago

Unfortunately that has not been the case for me. Some sites for buying concert tickets don't seem to like Firefox.

I've had problems with several Microsoft sites we use internally for work ever since Edge went to Chrome.

It's not Firefox's fault. Mozilla is abiding by web standards.

[-] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 14 hours ago

If you find any websites that don't work with firefox, you should report them to Mozilla. Firefox has a list of known bad websites, and has fixes for them, usually just a user agent override.

Your past experiences with Firefox are irrelevant because we're talking about the future.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I know. My experience with Chrome used to be good too. And we all know what's up now.

If Firefox fucks up, I'm fine with abandoning ship and moving on to the next thing. I'm not sure what that would be, but I'm sure I'll figure that out once we get there.

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 11 points 14 hours ago

That's the problem. Google is working so that there's not going to be a next thing.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago

That is concerning, but Internet Explorer used to be the only option too. Of course things are different now, but I have faith (for lack of anything else).

That was for a different reason, though. That was Microsoft forcing you to use their software on something you owned. A website can say, "you have to use chrome to access our site," and that's not antitrust behavior on the part of Google.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Thats the thing.

There is basically no alternative. Firefox exists on the mercy of google which is its biggest donor.

There are very few attempts at a truly open source browser and neither can tackle the biggest problem, which is google pushing websites to adopt their standards, weaponizing ad income to guarantee compliance.

Currently more then 80% of internet users have a chromium browser while websites creation for many entities is often outsourced out of lack of own IT knowledge. When firefox dies there will be no economic insensitive to build sites accessible by anything but chromium.

Low key i wish this fires back into anarchy. I hate the corporate web and the only sites i like to see are those free of economic insensitive and all in on an ethical free digital world.

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago
[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

try changing your user-agent to mock chrome in Firefox while you visit YouTube.

you should see a drastic difference in UX.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago

I tried YouTube in Chrome on desktop (for about 2 minutes) and I didn't notice any difference. I'll just keep using NewPipe on my phone though.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

it takes a whole 10 extra seconds for the interface to be usable for me in Firefox. but not when I spoof the user-agent as chrome.

at least that's how it was about 4 months ago.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 14 hours ago
[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago

NewPipe exclusively. YouTube has been unusable long before I fully moved back to FireFox.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 44 minutes ago

Smart choice. YouTube has been fucking Firefox users for a while now. Implementing stuff like a 5s wait to load videos.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

Maybe part of the monopoly ruling will have chrome taken away from them.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago

times of website incompatibility are long gone

I wish I could agree with that. Hell, I have to use Chrome to download my phone bill from Virgin, and a couple of others don't work.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming FF. It's these lazy web developers that only target Chrome. I'm sure Safari users get the same shit experience.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

times of website incompatibility are long gone.

cries in dev

[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I've cried also in dev a lot in the past, but mostly don't cry so much anymore

[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 4 points 15 hours ago

I really wish Firefox implemented easily switchable browser profiles. I am use Firefox mainly but for work I'll still use edge so I can use this feature.

[-] cschreib@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I don't know exactly what part of a separate profile you are after, so this may not be a 100% substitute, but I found container tabs in Firefox to work quite well (with some extensions to improve UX). It's still the same profile though, so passwords and history are shared.

[-] morriscox@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

firefox.exe -P -no-remote

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago

Yep so happy with Firefox having switched back a couple years ago.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

some people dont want firefox bcs its kinda slower then chromium based tbh but it aint bad am not saying firefox is bad

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