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[-] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 8 hours ago

How is there any hope against misinformation when the top comment on a thread decrying misinformation contains major misinformation itself? Specifically, way more Americans have died of COVID under the Biden administration than under the Trump administration.

Just one source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/09/18/covid-19-deaths-under-trump-1-million-fact-check/75197222007/

Granted, the Biden administration has had a lot more time under the COVID pandemic than Trump had, but the Biden administration has handled COVID in a very far from ideal way (see all the CDC missteps under Biden, for one example).

Please note: I am not a Trump supporter! I am only interested in truth, reason, and reality. Downvoting my post is a sign that you're not interested in any of those.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Granted, the Biden administration has had a lot more time under the COVID pandemic than Trump had, but the Biden administration has handled COVID in a very far from ideal way (see all the CDC missteps under Biden, for one example).

Not only did it have more time under it, but it also inherited a public that was much more threatening toward anyone attempting to advance COVID control measures, including common sense ones like masking indoors.

The utter lunacy that polluted the public square during the late 2020 - early 2021 time frame caused a lot of the deaths that happened under Biden's early days to be in the category of being completely preventable but a large portion of the country had been fed bullshit for a year that told them to resist every possible preventative measure.

[-] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 hours ago

A lot of that is fair, except that it wasn't just Biden's early days. The mishandling of the COVID pandemic continues to this day. It's been a clusterfuck from the beginning under Trump to the present under Biden. The US doesn't seem to be that unique in that regard though. It seems like it's been a clusterfuck around most of the world.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Once the virus went from stable to constantly evolving, there was no chance of eradication.

Trump's early mishandling of the virus and America's outsized influence over the rest of the world helped push the virus this direction long before it was a foregone conclusion that it would be endemic.

[-] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 hours ago

Agreed about Trump's mishandling, but I'm not talking eradication. That was bound to be difficult. I'm talking about mitigation, harm reduction. This was essentially completely abandoned by the Biden administration.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I agree that Biden's administration wasn't perfect or even very good in this regard. But like with the Afghanistan withdrawal and other issues his administration was completely set up for failure before they even set foot in office.

The best he was able to do was get the vaccine out to everyone, and to his credit, he accomplished that. Once the vaccines were distributed and everyone who wanted one had gotten a shot, the public appetite for continuing COVID mandates was completely gone.

I think I am probably talking too much about presidents or the public. The key mover was industry the whole time. Industry was willing to hold out until the vaccines were distributed. After that, industry wanted everything "back to normal" ASAP.

They're still fighting for "back to office" mandates to this day.

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